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Citations needed & a clarification request
Although sparse in places, there is at least one citation for each section, if not paragraph, except for the "Grant, Belknap and Politics" section, where no citations at all are found. The authors should cite the materials they used in writing that section.
In that same section, first paragraph, I see:
After being "summoned to Washington to testify at Congressional hearings": After testifying on March 29 and April 4, Custer testified before the Banning Committee.
Does this mean that Custer testified before Congress AND the Banning Committee? Or does it mean that Custer testified before Congress' Banning Committee? Since this is the only place in the article where the term "Banning Committee" appears, an explanation is in order. The William W. Belknap article doesn't mention this committee; there is no separate WP article for Belknap's impeachment trial; nor is there a separate article for "Banning Committee". As casual readers, we are left slightly baffled. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 01:51, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
Slight change to intro section
I have changed the intro section slightly to hilight the fact (which I learned from this article) that GAC actually got his horsemen around Lee before anybody else did (not surprising), and his was actually the division that received Lee's flag of truce, under which he offered to surrender. This is extra interesting to me, given that GAC's was also the first division to capture a Confederate battle flag (again, according to this article). I wanted to use these two points in a nice rhetorical contrast in the intro to hilite GAC's interesting contributions to the Civil War. Apparently, User:Sensei48 disagrees, having reverted my edit twice. I have undone his reversion again, having asked this user to discuss my proposed change to the article here on the talk page, as is (I believe) the accepted method for WP:BRD (as opposed to discussion of articles in the unwieldy "forum" of edit summaries.) Eaglizard (talk) 22:58, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- I believe I have been mistaken. I thought I had gotten that info from this article directly, but now I think perhaps I was reading a source and meant to finish this edit later (with the above-mentioned fact about the battle flag), and add a reference. I have removed my edit, but will replace it if I can find the source I was reading. Eaglizard (talk) 23:08, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
- Hi Eaglelizard - I was going to reply at more length but don't have time to do so at the moment. I would say, though, that your points here and on my Talk page are well-taken. This is a fairly minor edit in either case, a matter of wording really. I do think that whichever edit stands, an appropriate source would be a good idea. regards, Sensei48 (talk) 04:35, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
Famed Civil War artist-correspondent Alfred Waud was with Custer's units at various times throughout the war. Waud's original drawings are housed at the Library of Congress, donated in 1918 as part of the J. Pierpont Morgan Collection. His sketch, "Custer receiving the flag of truce--Appomatox [sic]--1865", is among them.  --HistoryETC (talk) 15:10, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
At West Point
This article says that Custer went to West Point in 1858 and graduated a year early in 1861 due to the outbreak of the Civil War. According to http://www.general-custer.com/index.php?page=academy-years and Stephen Ambrose's Crazy Horse and Custer: The Parallel Lives of Two American Warriors, ISBN-10: 0385479662, ISBN-13: 978-0385479660 (94,99) Custer was appointed there in 1857 and graduated at the bottom of his class after the standard four years.188.8.131.52 (talk) 23:55, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Custer & Causalities
I think too little is made of the huge losses Custer frequently incurred. He effectively destroyed several regiments worth of soldiers during the war and was promoted for it. He and "Kill Cavalry" Kilpatrick acted with disregard for their men. A "leader" uses their men but doesn't abuse them for his personal glory. Custer's action in the Indian Wars brought disrepute upon himself and the US Army with his unnecessary and wasteful campaign. There's a vast difference between heavy losses due to hard combat and vainglorious caprice.
missing content in the legacy section
The legacy section seems to concentrate primarily on pros and cons of military decisions and contemporay criticism. There's is little about his perceptionby current historians and academics and nothing at all about his depiction and image in arts, literature and popular culture over the last 120 years.--Kmhkmh (talk) 20:19, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
Bullet below or above heart?
The Death section has conflicting information- that of Custer's two bullet wounds in the battle, one was to the temple, and the other was both above and below the heart.