Talk:George Benson

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Trivia section[edit]

Dumping unsourced trivia here. Please do not move back without integrating into article and providing WP:RS citations with footnotes.

Trivia

One of his songs, "Affirmation", was used in the anime television series, Samurai Champloo, during the episode, "Gamblers and Gallantry". The track plays as one of the protagonists, named Jin, helps a woman escape from an Edo era Japanese brothel.[citation needed] One of his guitars was sold at a charity auction at the third Monsoon Cup Charity dinner at RM150,000 to an anonymous bidder.[citation needed]

Toddst1 (talk) 15:55, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Florida or Arizona???[edit]

At the start, it says he lives in Florida and is one of Jehovah's Witnesses, and then it says he lives in Arizona and is one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Which is it, Florida or Arizona???--70.30.47.169 (talk) 23:43, 5 November 2009 (UTC)

About the current picture of George Benson...[edit]

I think it would be better having attached some other kind of picture... I mean, not with "some guy" as this fan's picture, but playing his guitar, or at least singing...

What do you people think ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maximilianomilicich (talkcontribs) 21:10, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Albums are cultered[edit]

Studio, live, compilations are mixed into one list, makes confusing reading for one going through the discography. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Woneaecho (talkcontribs) 16:50, 31 January 2010 (UTC)


NPOV/Unencyclopedic[edit]

Parts of this read like a fan writeup ("this stellar lineup",) there are grammatical errors, etc., but I neither have time to fix nor know how to add a template at top. :( SteubenGlass (talk) 00:14, 30 May 2011 (UTC)

Infobox[edit]

A disruptive editor keeps adding some trivial information to the infobox without a valid source. I've asked him to provide a real source and discuss it here. Instead he reverts and claims some sort of ownership on this page (see his edit summaries). I won't revert him now because of WP:3RR but he has been repeatedly warned about edit warring and providing reliable sources which he chooses to ignore. freshacconci talktalk 14:43, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

I gave an official source two times, but freshacconci deleted it again and again. Here is the source once again: http://www.globaldogproductions.info/g/groove.html If somebody can help, please do it! He don't ever want to discuss anything as I asked for. He damages this article without any reason! --Horseman16 (talk) 15:05, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
I asked you to discuss it here which you refused to do. The source you provided is not reliable per WP:RS. I asked you repeatedly to read that link so you would understand what a reliable source is. Instead you edit warred and claimed ownership of the article (see diff). As I said, adding that information to the infobox is not helpful, does not belong there and is unsourced. If that information were properly sourced it would belong in the article with an explanation. freshacconci talktalk 15:17, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
Actually, it is you have refused my request to discuss the information I added. It can be found on history page. I haven't claimed any ownership on this page at all, on the contrary, it is you think that if you have more rights at Wikipedia, you can do everything that you want. After all this you called me "a disruptive editor". Is it normal? --Horseman16 (talk) 15:36, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
By the way, on the main page of the article there is a text: "At the age of 10, George recorded his first single record with RCA-Victor in New York, called 'She Makes Me Mad'". Why don't you think that this information is not helpful and does not belong there? I wrote that the career of little George Benson started in 1954. It is all the same. --Horseman16 (talk) 15:56, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
As I already told he don't ever want to discuss anything, he only wants to do as he wants. He told: "I've asked him to provide a real source and discuss it here", but he don't discuss and don't answer to my messages. --Horseman16 (talk) 16:02, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

Religion: Jehova's Witness[edit]

The article cited does mention his being a Jehova's Witness, along with Michael Jackson. The same points are made in this interview on Youtube. [1] is a 22:45, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

You need to read WP:CAT/R. For the purpose of categories, it is not sufficient that a source merely mention the religious affiliation, but it has to be a significant part of the person's notability, based on a direct statement by the individual or their notable activities. Youtube isn't considered a reliable source, but in the video, he refrains from explicitly stating his religion anyway.--Jeffro77 (talk) 03:03, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
If a celebrity said in an interview that they went to church, it wouldn't justify adding them to a category about that church, because it isn't automatically a significant element of their notability—if the person said they regularly gave sermons at their church, that might qualify. The source already present in the article is suitable for indicating his religious affiliation in the text of the article (however, it is not a direct statement by Benson, but an interpolation provided by the publisher of the article), but it does not indicate his religious affiliation to be significant to his notability, and therefore not sufficient for the category. Additionally, Jackson had not been affiliated with the JW religion since at least the mid-1980s, and the conversation alluded to in the video was from decades ago.--Jeffro77 (talk) 03:13, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
You are the one who needs to read and understand Cat/R, which states that an affirmation of religious membership of the subject suffices. You also need to read and understand the interview already cited, which mentions that Benson avoids sexual songs because he does not want to knock on a door with a Bible and have a sexual song playing on the radio.
is a 07:09, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
"knock on a door with a Bible" is not a statement of religious affiliation.--Jeffro77 (talk) 07:18, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
His recent autobiography's acknowledgments "give[s] thanks to the name Jehovah". He is identified as a JW in numerous reliable sources, e.g. NY Daily News. is a 08:13, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
The name Jehovah is not exclusive to Jehovah's Witnesses. Does he specifically identify as a JW in the autobiography?--Jeffro77 (talk) 09:55, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
You don't seem to understand the benchmark for inclusion of a person in a category about religious affiliation. It is not simply whether other sources say it, or even whether it is probably the case, but whether the individual has directly stated it. The criteria for categories is higher than for inclusion in an article.--Jeffro77 (talk) 10:02, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
Your most recent edit seems well-intended. However, the new source also doesn't explicitly state that he is a member of the religion, and therefore does not meet the requirement for the category. The source meets the threshold for mentioning in the article that he is (or at least, in 1989 was) a member of the religion. It is not a suitable source for saying he is devout.--Jeffro77 (talk) 11:32, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
His statements about donating funds to "Watch Tower Bible and Chapter Center" do not indicate membership of anything. Additionally, there's no such thing as "Watch Tower Bible and Chapter Center", so either he means he donates to two separate organisations, "Watch Tower Bible [and Tract Society]" and something else called "Chapter Center", or he doesn't know the name of the organisation of which he's supposedly a 'devout JW' (a claim the article never makes). (JWs don't even describe their organisation as having 'Chapters' in the sense of 'a division of a religious organisation'.)--Jeffro77 (talk) 13:06, 21 January 2015 (UTC)