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== Rumble In The Jungle ==this person below has no idea what he is talking about, Ali was pushing down on Foreman's neck over 5 times a round......my sources are that i just watched the fight on ESPN demand........


The opinions reported by George Foreman about The Rumble In The Jungle are severely outdated and, consequently, configure a misrepresentation, or a partial (and arguably slanted) representation at best, of George Foreman's eventual settlement on this issue. A mention of the current opinions of George Foreman about The Rumble In The Jungle ought to be considered for inlcusion as soon as possibile if we want to keep this page not only up to date but also consistent with the current opinions of Foreman about it, rather than relying on the old ones that Foreman himself does not entertain any longer. Consequently, I propose the following adjunct to the Rumble In The Jungle section to be appended as soon as possibile if we want a comprehensive, up to date, and objective delineation of his true feelings:

  • However over years George Foreman dramatically and thoroughly revised his opinons on Muhammad Ali and his bout with him, declaring "We fought in 1974, that was a long time ago. After 1981 we became the best of friends. By 1984, we loved each other. I am not closer to anyone else in this life than I am to Muhammad Ali." [1] stating that "Then, in 1981, a reporter came to my ranch and asked me: 'What happened in Africa, George?' I had to look him in the eye and say, “I lost. He beat me.” Before that I had nothing but revenge and hate on my mind, but from then on it was clear. I’ll never be able to win that match, so I had to let it go." [2] and eventually endorsing the conclusion about Muhammad Ali that "He's the greatest man I've ever known. Not greatest boxer that's too small for him. He had a gift. He's not pretty he's beautiful. Everything America should be, Muhammad Ali is." [3]

Also, about the line "Ali also constantly pushed down on Foreman's neck, but was never warned about doing so", this is totally misleading. The term "constantly" means "Without variation or change, in every case; without interruption" and anything akin to that. This simply did not happen, the episodes are 5 in the whole match (and are actually a kind of clinch that does occurs in boxing), and this is exactly why Ali "was never warned about doing so". The absence of warnings is not a consequence of malice incompetence or negligence, as the passage inevitably seems (and arguably means) to suggest, but a simple consequence of the fact the warning was not necessary given the totally anecdotical nature of that clinches.

Therefore using "constantly" in that context means either spreading false notions or employing an adverb ignoring the true (and sweeping) scope of its semantic payload. I suggest either the removal of the line or replacing the adverb "constantly" with he much more grammatically and factually pertinent "frequently".

  1. ^ "George Foreman: I didn't want to be 'the champion', I wanted to be 'the 'man who beat Muhammad Ali'". The Telegraph, telegraph.co.uk. 2012-01-14. Retrieved 2014-05-07. 
  2. ^ "George Foreman On Ali". Shortlist.com. Retrieved 2014-05-07. 
  3. ^ "An Interview with George Foreman". Counterpunch.org. 2003-09-07. Retrieved 2014-05-07.