Talk:George Steinbrenner

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Bio outside of baseball?[edit]

Can someone add a section about how his profession and life prior to the Yankess? I know I would like to know how he made enough money to buy the Yanks. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.35.195.6 (talk) 19:41, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

He spent half his life outside of baseball, but there's no reflection of that in this inadequate article. He also has number interests outside of baseball even now. Again, you'd never know from this article... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.168.17 (talk) 23:57, 4 December 2007

Like more on hiring the first black head coach for a professional sports team, John McClendon of the Clevland Pipers, of the American Basketball League. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.39.160.132 (talk) 04:14, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Quote expansion[edit]

Can someone please expand quote section and move to wikiquote? zellin 20:29, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)

Top 5 reasons should be added[edit]

The Top 5 Reasons You Can't Blame... George Steinbrenner for the economic divide in Major League Baseball should be added. TMC1982 2:18, May 8, 2006 (UTC)

fixed a seinfeld quote[edit]

george's father never said "what the fuck did you trade jay buhner for?" he said what the HELL. fixed it.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Aleahey (talkcontribs) 20:08, 15 June 2006

Money[edit]

How did he get rich to buy the Yanks?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.246.103.133 (talk) 17:46, 25 June 2006

Steinbrenner spent one season with the Boilermakers before joining his father's struggling company, the American Shipbuilding Company, the following year. --andrew 03:34, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Indeed the article says this, but I don't know if that's enough to explain where he got 10 million dollars. I don't think at that time, a season of coaching would pay anywhere near that kind of money, so the question then goes to "joining his father's struggling company". If it's stuggling, how did he manage to find enough money just joining it to buy sports teams? Just wondering. I think the article could use a bit more detail on where his money came from TheHYPO 12:12, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

George Steinbrenner didn't have 10 million dollars he assembled a group of investors. Ramgar11 23:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC) august 07, 2007 4:18

He was also a businessman who ran the family business, shipbuilding in Cleveland and went on to make a bundle with the American Shipbuilding Company (see the article).Ryecatcher773 (talk) 09:14, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

No shameless plugging, please[edit]

I removed a link to the self-proclaimed "best Yankee forums on the net".—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.151.51.92 (talk) 20:29, 1 August 2006

Quotes Page[edit]

Someone should clarify on the quotes page which quotes are actually by the real-life Steinbrenner and which are by the Steinbrenner played on Seinfeld. This section is rather confusing and may be misleading. —Ua747sp (talk) 05:48, 9 Aug 2006 (UTC)

I agree, I don't think he ever said "....Free agency could ruin baseball".--Fayettehelle,NC 05:46, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

George Steinbrenner Did say ".....Free agency could Ruin Baseball."--. People don't always mean what they say, but he did say it. Ramgar11 23:53, 5 August 2007 (UTC) 8-05-07 4:52

Failure[edit]

Someone recently added "Failure" section that follows Seinbrenner's "Success" section. I believe that this section should be removed, or at least edited. For starters, it is not definitively the "most devastating collapse in baseball history." Seeing as there is no quantifiable way to measure a "devastating collapse" of this nature, I will change that part for now. If someone wants to come along later and fix up the entire section (or remove it if it seems unnecessary). --Nichenbach 20:42, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

Innovation[edit]

I added the innovation because i think it should show how he change the business of baseball, by going agaisnt other owners and by other methods.Ramgar11 23:50, 5 August 2007 (UTC)08-05-07 4:20

http://www.forbes.com/2004/03/24/soccerland.html shows that Manchester United were valued at over $1 billion in 2004 a year before 2005.86.169.183.119 (talk) 22:50, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks - I changed it to first American pro franchise. Tvoz/talk 15:46, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Born in Rocky River?[edit]

There is no hospital in Rocky River. The nearet is in Lakewood or Cleveland (Westpark: Fairvew Hospital). I'm not aware of any hospital that used to be in Rocky River, but he could have been born there. Or he could have been born at home.

I went to High School with his nephew. Maybe I'll track him down, since I haven't talke to him in over 20 years, using this as an excuse. His mother, George's sister, would certainly know.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.170.191.248 (talk) 19:07, 15 August 2007

Introduction[edit]

The whole part about Steinbrenner being respected by other executives, and hated by non-Yankee fans either needs to be HEAVILY referenced, or removed from the article. It doesn't really have a place in an article like this, even with reference. President David Palmer 18:36, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


Steinbrenner could have played himself on Seinfeld?[edit]

I recall in an interview, Larry David said they originally approached Steinbrenner about playing himself in the show but Steinbrenner refused because he thought it would take up too much of his time. So when they threw names around for replacements, they just decided that David should do it. Does anyone have a reference to this, and if so, could it get included in the article?--Will2k (talk) 20:23, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

pictures[edit]

why no pictures —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ramgar11 (talkcontribs) 03:12, 7 May 2008 (UTC)

I got one up now.Blaze33541 (talk) 08:45, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Why is the current picture a wax dummy?--Lost tiree, lost dutch :O (talk) 20:54, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Steinbrenner confusion.[edit]

You know about the Seinfeld version of Steinbrenner? Well the only fault is the episodes could've looked like a list to make it easier to read and less obtrusive about it and maybe it would've worked better to make a separate article about Seinfeld's Steinbrenner. Take it as a suggestion and figure a way to at least clean it up a bit. Johnnyauau2000 (talk) 04:09, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Letterman[edit]

David Letterman continually mercilessly mocked Steinbrener in the early 90's... AnonMoos (talk) 17:35, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

Reinstatement Controversy[edit]

Why is his reinstatement mentioned with no reference to what he was being reinstated from? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.124.69.44 (talk) 21:23, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Alzheimer's?[edit]

There's an article about nine months ago from the New York Daily news online that says Steinbrenner has Alzheimer's disease. Has anyone else heard/read/can verify anything about this? Horadrius (talk) 08:57, 2 February 2010 (UTC)Milo

Health Issues[edit]

I completely agree with the above poster, there needs to be at least a line or two devoted to Steinbrenner's declining health. It is well known that he has at least some dementia and also he is bound to a wheel chair. Although I have a feeling that the point could be moot in a few months. Ranatoro (talk) 19:09, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from Jdm2030, 13 July 2010[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} Died July 13th, 2010

Jdm2030 (talk) 13:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Already done. Salvio ( Let's talk 'bout it!) 14:49, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Death[edit]

George Steinbrenner died on July 13, 2010 after suffering a massive heart attack in Tampa, FL. He passed away around 6:30 am Eastern Time. It's a sad, sad day for baseball There are reports that he died this morning. As soon as a reliable source confirms this is will be added. Harry the Dog WOOF 13:48, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Well, he died last night. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.185.216.18 (talk) 13:49, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

ESPN (on Mike and Mike) just confirmed that he died this morning. 72.204.48.222 (talk) 13:50, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

NY Daily News had the scoop. 68.45.109.136 (talk) 13:51, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
When there is a source we can use we can add it. Harry the Dog WOOF 13:52, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

http://www.abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/region_tampa/sources%3A-new-york-yankees-owner-george-steinbrenner-dies —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.41.163.23 (talk) 13:55, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2010/07/ap-reports-death-of-yankees-owner-george-steinbrenner/1--75.102.128.133 (talk) 13:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Now added. Harry the Dog WOOF 13:56, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

He is still referred to in the present tense where it says he "is also a fan of professional wrestling." Rickmbari (talk) 15:11, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Edit request[edit]

{{editsemiprotected}} Please delete "(the home team won all seven games of the series and the National League had home field advantage)" from the "Reinstatement and championship years section". It is irrelevant and biased, its wording makes it seem like reason the Yankees didn't win their 4th straight title was that they didn't have home field advantage.

Yes check.svg Done since it was unreferenced and was poorly written and didn't really flow with the article. GiftigerWunsch [TALK] 18:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

George III[edit]

Shouldn't the introduction read "George Michael Steinbrenner III"? That's how he was always referred to in official press releases and bios, etc. Kjscotte34 (talk) 21:03, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

OK, I see that the Yankee news releases do say "III", so I guess so, although his father's name was Henry George so it's not clear why George Michael becomes III. Would like some kind of real citation to clear this up, but I'll put it back for now if it hasn't yet been done. Maybe someone can check Schaap's or Madden's book. Tvoz/talk 22:40, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. I assume he had other relatives named George, maybe an uncle, etc. I'll be outta town for the weekend but maybe I'll research it when I get back and why he's the 3rd can be added later. Kjscotte34 (talk) 14:08, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Good point - and thanks for checking into it when you can. Tvoz/talk 17:31, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
Ah - I had a minute and found it - George III was named after his grandfather George II. I'll add something to the page. Tvoz/talk 17:44, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Heart Attack[edit]

I read it was a 'massive' heart attack. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.61.249.175 (talk) 22:23, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Your point is? Tvoz/talk 22:33, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Picture[edit]

We don't have a better picture than that? Do we have any other picture? --Muboshgu (talk) 01:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

Paul?[edit]

"Paul" is mentioned early in this article without any previous reference. Who is Paul? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wjones666 (talkcontribs) 18:01, 14 July 2010 (UTC)

It's Gabe Paul, and he is identified in first paragraph of "New York Yankees career" section, the first time he's mentioned. Tvoz/talk 18:53, 15 July 2010 (UTC)