Talk:George Takei

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Green Berets[edit]

Removed the clause "the only pro-Vietnam film made during the Vietnam War", since, first, The Green Berets as I understand it was pro-USA, not pro-Vietnam; and second, I doubt it was the only one anyway. See Talk:The Green Berets (movie) for discussion on this point, and feel free to revert the change if it ever gets cleared up. —ajo

The Green Berets was absolutely pro-Vietnam War, just like its star John Wayne, and it was certainly the only film ever made to support that obscene conflict.

At the discussion page for The Green Berets are listed two other pro-war movies made during the war. The claim to uniqueness, then, is at least controversial if not false. Anyway, it's not clear how the politics of that movie is relevant. So I'm removing the line. -The Sarcastic Fringehead


Does someone with a good grasp of IPA & the IPA templates want to add the pronunciation of his name? Most sources (including Takei himself e.g. in this video at 4:40) say it's ta-kay (rhymes with okay), but ta-kai is commonly heard (e.g. that's the one used in Family Guy, perhaps in reference to William Shatner's refusal to pronounce it correctly). -- (talk) 19:09, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

The Japanese pronunciation is tah-keh-ee which when pronounced at speed rhymes with "okay" (oh-keh-ee). The other pronunciation is just plain wrong on multiple levels. Shatner is the most unreliable of sources imaginable. (talk) 07:19, 13 September 2014 (UTC)

George Takei in Futurama[edit]

He also was in the s06e04 episode of the Futurama, voicing himself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GolerGkA (talkcontribs) 14:58, 27 July 2010 (UTC)


While he is notable for specifically being a prominent actor with japanese ancestry, i think i read somewhere that we should be cautious about leading an article with someones ethnicity. national status, yes, ethnicity and culture, not so much. i will try to research it among the numerous guidelines here. I would prefer his ethnicity be mentioned in his early period biography, and when it becomes notable in his career, specifically his role as Sulu.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 22:34, 6 November 2010 (UTC)

Full film and television listings?[edit]

I think the idea of people jumping in on this page and adding every little thing George has ever done a little over-the-top. In fact, I think adding all this stuff begins to detract from the article as a whole, who wants to read page after page of every commercial and television show he has ever appeared on? Can't we just have a link to his website and to IMDB and be done with it? I vote to get back to making this article about what makes this person noteable, not for every bit of film he has appeared on. Akuvar (talk) 16:15, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

I agree --Valentingalea (talk) 14:01, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
I was really hoping more people would weigh in on this discussion. It has been 6 months and only one other editor has posted a note. Meanwhile, IMO, the random statements about what the subject has/is/did appear in continues out of hand, usually with no source or reference. To me it is minutia and the article is weaker for its length. Akuvar (talk) 05:11, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
As a (mostly) casual visitor I agree. If I want a complete listing of his appearance in media I can go to IMDb (since that's what it's for). On Wikipedia I want to find more info on the person George Takei. There is quite a lot of info but the section about his various appearances in TV, film etc. is drowning the interesting facts. (talk) 22:45, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
I did some major overhaul to this, removing everything I thought was simple IMDB trivia. I did use some judgement about items that I felt were noteable during his career. I think that, with the propensity of people jumping in here and adding any little tidbit everytime George appears somewhere, that we will need to watchdog this new "philosophy" for a while. Akuvar (talk) 15:28, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
Any reason he doesn't just have a Filmography or Works like most other articles have? 17:29, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
So... here's an idea. Instead of removing singular sentences, why don't you just make a Filmography section? I mean, anyone can remove chunks of information, but it takes a real editor to actually improve... Hearfourmewesique (talk) 13:37, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
The thought was that this article should stick to wikipedia standards, things that make a person noteable, and that we would leave a filmography to the folks over at IMDB. George does a lot of appearances and guest work on a lot of different projects. This article used to be incredibly long and for a person coming to find out, "who is George Takei?" It was un-readable. As you can see, we originally posted the idea of removing the full filmography listings back in 2010 and response has been fairly positive. The re-work of the article was a lot of work so I'm not sure why you decided to take a dig at editors removing material. Akuvar (talk) 15:34, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Let me be clear - I didn't mean to sound pretentious in my last post - I don't make the rules here. If you think the article needs a filmography section, go ahead and build it. Originally, people were pilling the stuff into the decades sections of his biography. Perhaps if we had a filmography section at the bottom, readers who didn't want that could bypass it. I just feel strongly that we should keep the listing-style compilation of all his work out of the biographical sections above. Akuvar (talk) 15:41, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Just so we're clear... do you really think that filmography has no encyclopedic value? Is this why 99% of articles about TV/film personas have those sections? Hearfourmewesique (talk) 18:07, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
No, I never said that. To be clear, I said that this article previously had filmography/imdb-style listings all through the biographical sections, specifically the decade-by-decade descriptions of the subject's life. All this trivia bogged the article down and made it unreadable. We removed it and kept only items that seemed to be significant to the subject's life or helped define who he is. In hindsight, moving all that to a filmography section would have been fine. If you wish to create a filmography section then I would not oopose it, though with IMDB just a mouse-click away, I won't put any effort into it. Akuvar (talk) 01:42, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
"with IMDB just a mouse-click away, I won't put any effort into it." This shows your collaborative spirit at its best. Just stay away from the article (and from Wikipedia, if you can) so that I – or another editor that gives a rat's @$5 – can begin improving it and not just skimming random parts. Hearfourmewesique (talk) 19:09, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
Your belligerence is unwaranted. Editors can pick and choose to work on, or not work on, whatever they wish. This discussion has no place on this Talk page. I will write a comment on your Talk page. Akuvar (talk) 20:30, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
No, it's you who's belligerent, nipping the work of other editors while refusing to do the proper thing. If you won't put any effort into improving it, why bother at all? Hearfourmewesique (talk) 18:47, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
I think his appearance on 'Psych' is notable because it specifically depicts him as himself and references his prior career. It may also be his first appearance as himself in a fictional TV program, although I didn't put that in the article since I don't have a source for it currently. (If I find a source for that, I'll add it.) I reworded it to be shorter and also to focus more on Takei's role personally, but I think this belongs here at least as much as the references to 'Heroes' and 'Allegiance'. If it belongs in "Filmography" then all of these should be moved to "Filmography", instead of arbitrarily deleting some while keeping others. Shelbystripes (talk) 16:28, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
At the very least, the article should contain a selected filmography of more prominent works as recommended by WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers (see WP:FILMOGRAPHY). Presenting it only in copy and saying everyone who wants to find out more should just "click through to IMDB" is doing a disservice to our readers by making it more difficult to easily find content. I'm going to throw together a basic table now and then add it to the page. elektrikSHOOS (talk) 23:06, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
Actually, given the above, I'll wait for consensus before doing so. elektrikSHOOS (talk) 23:24, 26 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm surprised this article makes no mention of the catchphrase he has become to be associated with in recent years - "Oh My!" - wouldn't this be considered encyclopedic for him? (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:19, 22 October 2012 (UTC)

Adventure Time[edit]

(From Adventure Time Wiki) Takei also plays Ricardio in "Ricardio The Heart Guy" [1x07] and is also heard narrating the preview for "Incendium." [3x26] In season four, he reprised his role of Ricardio in "Lady & Peebles." [4x19] I'm surprised no-one else has mentioned this. bjshnog 01:42, 29 October 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bjshnog (talkcontribs)

Starfleet Academy Casting and Appearance[edit]

It is not mentioned in the comment section but it is a notable fact that George Takei was a cast member in the live-action cutscenes of the 1997 PC game "Star Trek: Starfleet Academy" by Interplay. For reference and more information, please see this related section in the Wikipedia article for the game itself:

Could someone please add this information?

This may be pedantic, but Lt. Sulu did not have a first name when he was first cast by Gene Roddenberry. (Source: Thus it's inappropriate to use "Hikaru Sulu" when talking about anything prior to Star Trek VI. Nasukaren (talk) 23:40, 30 July 2014 (UTC)

Tiberius wasn't introduced to James T. Kirk until the animated series, but James Kirk's wikipedia page lists him as James Tiberius Kirk. Is it inappropriate to give a fictional character's whole name even if they didn't start (created) with that name? What about other historical tidbits we collect along the way about a fictional character's life? I am adding the first name back into the article. (BTW, why was this discussion posted under Starfleet Academy casting?) StarHOG (talk) 15:44, 2 August 2014 (UTC)

The Animated Series September 8,1973 - October 12, 1974[edit] Should be added.Easeltine (talk) 15:51, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Spousal names[edit]

As per the bio on George's official site, Brad's last name was legally changed from "Altman" to "Takei" in 2011. How should the article reflect this, given that various mentions of Brad are from both before and after 2011? DS (talk) 03:23, 15 September 2013 (UTC)

Takekuma Takei[edit]

The reference for George's father's birthplace does not say his father was born in San Francisco, only that he was San Franciscan:

"We were Americans: my mother was born in Sacramento, my father was a San Franciscan, um, my siblings and I were born in Los Angeles." (emphasis added) The Ed Show, January 04, 2013. "Stereotyping Asian-Americans": George Takei interview, 05:36

Simply residing in San Francisco allows one to be called "San Franciscan". George twice uses "born" to describe family members while not using "born" to describe his father, all in the same sentence.

Sources which state Takekuma was born in Japan and educated in San Francisco:

I am unsure of their reliability so I am not adding them to the article, but combined with George's own phrasing in the video, I am removing the "father was born in San Francisco" part. Thundersnow (talk) 16:08, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

Another source: In an interview George states his father was born in Yamanashi Prefecture, Japan, and was brought to the US when he was 10 years old. Archive of American Television interview @ 1:25 This confirms the Japanese birth but muddies the water as to Takekuma's age when he arrived (ten given in the interview, twelve on the Remembrance article, and thirteen in the Arkansas Encyclopedia and Dickerson's book), although I suppose that is unimportant in the article about his son. Thundersnow (talk) 16:58, 21 October 2013 (UTC)


There have been several attempts to add Takei's booming popularity on facebook and social media. Someone added a banner saying the intro needed work, especially with Takei's new found popularity with a generation who doesn't even connect with him because of Star Trek. I added a paragraph about his facebook popularity, gave a citation, and removed the banner. Another editor reverted it with little explanation. I have reinserted it and ask that people improve upon it rather than remove it if you do not like it.StarHOG (talk) 19:44, 25 July 2014 (UTC)