Talk:Glaciers on Mars

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Orphaned references in Glaciers on Mars[edit]

I check pages listed in Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of Glaciers on Mars's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.

Reference named "Holt, J. 2008":

Reference named "news.brown.edu":

Reference named "Plaut, J. 2008":

Reference named "Head, J. 2005":

Reference named "marstoday.com":

I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT 14:28, 3 September 2011 (UTC)

Rewrite[edit]

I think this needs work on the structure and style. I'm going to have a crack... see User:DanHobley/Glaciers on Mars. DanHobley (talk) 02:55, 10 September 2011 (UTC)

So, after a mere 18 months, I'm going to start working on this. I propose (slash am about to, per WP:BOLD) junking the lede as it is, and replacing it wholesale. My rationale for its fatal flaws is:
  • ~50% (2nd paragraph) of this just describes the characteristics of terrestrial glaciers. That's not appropriate in the lede of an article about Mars glaciers. (It is appropriate in the body text). Figures shouldn't be described in the lede (end 2nd para).
  • First sentence ("Glaciers formed much of the observable surface in large areas of Mars.") Is both badly defined, and I'm not sure it's true. Ice rich deposits do, sure, but flowing ice doesn't.
  • The remaining three sentences are fine, but could be clearer.
  • Glaciers are associated with considerably more than just fretted terrain and tropical volcanoes. Conversely, it's not exactly surprising that they might be found in ("...even in...") craters.
Thus, I've reworked the whole thing. I've made sure to retain all of the actual factual content (discussions of terrestrial features excepted), but the words and structure have changed. There's also some new stuff that I hope adds valuable context. I think the new version is clearer and should provide a sounder foundation to work off. Please edit away if you so desire. DanHobley (talk) 04:22, 14 July 2013 (UTC)