Talk:Glassy carbon

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I think this should be merged with amorphous carbon, or a subsection added in that article. It should also be noted that "glass" is misplaced here: the material is not cooled form a carbon melt.--Joel 16:49, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

But glassy carbon is not amorphous. This from IUPAC: "Glass-like carbon cannot be described as amorphous carbon because it consists of two-dimensional structural elements and does not exhibit ‘dangling’ bonds." .--Scsharip 9 Jan 2006

Glassy carbon, Carbon nanotubes, and Fullerenes should all be kept seperate from amorphous carbon. Instead of merging articles, why don't we work on getting pictures so we can know the appearance of the substance? --Ruff 23:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I just added a link to another supplier - is that frowned upon?

Wikipedia is for all valid science even when IUPAC fails to define it. Glass and Glassy are two different words. Glassy need not be cooled from a melt or even a glass at all. It must simply be Glass like or Glassy. The Fullerenic carbon we call glassy carbon is not a glass and certainly not amorphous. The well defined molecular order including semispheres of C60 and C72 like walls demonstrate a fullerene like order throughout. When IUPAC catches up to the rest of us, they too will call it fullerenic. links to anyone prividing valuable technical or descriptive information on their web site is always good.

Contradictory statements in Production[edit]

First paragraph: "It was first produced by workers at the laboratories of The General Electric Company, UK, in the early 1960s,"

Second paragraph: "It was first produced in the laboratories of The Carborundum Company, Trafford Park, Manchester, UK, in the mid 1950's by Bernard Redfern (BR)"

huh? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.37.25.28 (talk) 15:38, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

The second paragraph does not say "first produced" it says "first observed" —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ddw09 (talkcontribs) 18:53, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

Proposal to rename/move the page[edit]

In my opinion, the page should be moved to the name as recommended by IUPAC, i.e., from "glassy carbon" to "glass-like carbon" or similar. As the article explains, "the names glassy carbon and vitreous carbon have been introduced as trademarks; therefore, IUPAC does not recommend their use as technical terms." Best regards, Stan J. Klimas (talk) 20:14, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

Properties[edit]

What is electrical and thermal conductivity of pure glassy carbon? Probably much higher than many pure metalloids at normal conditions (especially B nd Si). What is its color, transprency and luster? What is melting,(sublimation) and boiling point? Probably it is solid above 3000 C, such as diamond and graphite, which is defintely not a trait of nonmetallic elemental substance (but metalloidal or metallic). Diamond is far much more similar to aluminium oxide than to any nonmetallic elemental substance.

In my opinion this material is not nonmetallic, but a typical metalloid (much harder than graphite (7 Mohs)), one of metallic forms of carbon. If selenium is classified as metalloid, carbon and phosphorus have to be also. I am irritating when I see periodic table in which selenium is classified as metalloid and carbon and phosphorus only as nonmetals. Metallicity of C, P and Se is rather the same. P has lower electronegativity from C and Se, but it is more rarely named as metalloid than Se and C. Iodine has also some metallic (metalloidal) traits, especially appearance. C, P, Se, I (and Rn) are in "diagonal carbon group" - group of elements intermediate between metalloids and nonmetals, I is a bit less metallic than three previous elements, Rn is the most nonmetallic, but along with H and P has lower electronegtivity than some heavy metals (such as gold).

83.31.150.149 (talk) 15:50, 19 October 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.31.150.149 (talk) 15:46, 19 October 2013 (UTC)