Talk:Goalkeeper

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Goal area[edit]

I removed the reference to the goal area as there are no provisions in the FIFA rules forcing players to leave the area, its only purpose is to define the area within which a goal kick is taken. Removed the reference to "two hands on the ball" which is also not mentioned, possession of the ball is defined in law 12 decision 2 of the FIFA rules. These rules are available here

http://images.fifa.com/fifa/handbook/laws/2003/LOTG2003_e.pdf

Bob Palin 18:04, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)


Where in the Laws of Football does it say that the goalkeeper can not be challenged at all when he has possession of the ball?

--DaveB 06:59, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)

It's an indirect free kick offence to "prevent to goalkeeper from releasing the ball from his hands" (Law 12), but that's not quite the same thing. I suppose if you try and kick the ball from his hands, that would be dangerous play. Didn't somebody head the ball from a keeper's hands recently? sjorford 08:13, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
As I understand, the goalkeeper can not be challenged if he has the ball in both hands. However the goalkeeper can not hold the ball for more than six seconds. SimonMayer 10:49, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
It is correct that it is an offence to prevent the keeper from releasing the ball. Kicking the ball from the goalkeepers hands is indeed dangerous play, and yes there was an incident a number of years ago in which an attacker headed the ball when the keeper was holding it with one hand (this case is often brought up in referee exams!). If the keeper is holding the ball in one hand, he has control of the ball; heading the ball out of his hands (legal) is a challenge :-)
The current (post-1996ish rewrite) text of the laws does not make mention of the keeper being exempt from being challenged when holding the ball (whether two hands or not), and the old (pre-1996ish rewrite) text of the Laws/Q+A/IFAB-Decisions implied that the keeper could be challenged in some way. Other than the prohibition on preventing the keeper from releasing the ball, the Laws do not explicitly differentiate between play when the keeper has control of the ball and when he does not. Most "restrictions" on contesting the keep are just aspects of the normal dangerous play rules in Law 12.
This may all seem pedantic, but there are enough minor myths regarding the Laws floating around, so we should look to keep the facts straight.
--Daveb 00:27, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

"Netminder"[edit]

I notice "netminder" has been added as an alternative term for goalkeeper in some sports. Could someone please tell me which major sports use this as a formal term? If not we should remove it (we don't want lists of informal terms blowing out). --Daveb 07:20, 5 May 2005 (UTC) Ice hockey?Jatrius (talk) 12:08, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Handball[edit]

Should there be a section for handball?Tom 01:09, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Goalkeeper's different colour jersey[edit]

While not an important change, I though it would be better to slightly modify it. The laws of the game state that... "each goalkeeper wears colours that distinguish him from the other players, the referee and the assistant referees." and I do believe that shorts and socks must also be of a different colour. Flag of Ireland.svg Paddy :-) 02:24, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Goalkeepers when defending??[edit]

I don't really know what it's meant by... "As the goalkeeper is usually the team's only player who can see the entire field, they often act as an organizer of the team when it is defending."


If it means putting a wall at a free kick, this is a bit obvious, Soccer is a team sport and I think all the team do organise and help each other all the time, not really understand the sentence, and don't see the point of it being there, I still didn't delete it though, I'll let yous decide. Flag of Ireland.svg Paddy :-) 02:28, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Paddy, i think what the writer is trying to imply, and I speak as a goalkeeper my self for Field Hockey, the goalkeeper is, in may sports, responsible for the placement and playing style of his defence when the ball is turned over from attack into defence. The goalkeeper tells the players who they should mark/engage, when to do it and what the likely path of the ball down the pitch is given that the goalkeeper can see pretty much everyone in the other team and has the ability (hopefully) to read their runs and read the pattern of play.

Andy Krebs 11-Jan-09 09:56AM

Gaelic football goalkeepers[edit]

Better explanation needed, I thought all Gaelic footballers were aloud to touch the ball with their hands. Flag of Ireland.svg Paddy :-) 02:31, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

John Burridge - an all-time great?[edit]

Great character that he is, I don't think that even JB himself, would put himself in the same company as Banks or Jennings or Southall or Zoff or Yashin. Somebody's having a laugh!Jatrius (talk) 12:11, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Field Hockey Goalkeepers Crossing The 23m Line[edit]

I have amended this section to read as it does as the previous incarnation implied directly that the only time a goalkeeper could cross the 23m line was when he was taking a penalty stroke. Rule 10.1 indicates that a goalkeeper who removes his padding may take part in play anywhere on the pitch, but still enjoys the privaleges of a goalkeeper when in his D. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.209.136 (talk) 10:00, 10 January 2009 (UTC)