Talk:Goodnight, Irene

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Infoboxes for the Leadbelly and The Weavers versions were requested at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Missing_encyclopedic_articles/List_of_notable_songs/5

Origins[edit]

From the Grateful Dead Family Discography at http://www.deaddisc.com

"'Goodnight Irene' is nearly always credited to Leadbelly, or to Leadbelly and Lomax, on LPs and CDs. He though claimed to have been taught it by an uncle. It is thought to be a Tin Pan Alley song from the first decade of the century but may be earlier. In [his book] Songsters and Saints, Paul Oliver suggests that the song was written in 1886 by Gussie Davis, as 'Irene, Goodnight'."

I havs seen at least one other reference to the early sheet music version on the web but now I can not find it. In any case it is plausible to suppose that Davis simply did what the later performers did and adapted an existing traditional song.

It has been recorded is so many styles by so many people that is a truly popular song: not simply a folk song.

mikeL....

Question[edit]

Any particular reason why this is Categorized as a "football chant and song"? If nobody answers, I will decategorize it. Smartyshoe 20:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Article says associated with the Bristol Rovers football team. Design 23:44, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

Lyrics[edit]

The current article says the Leadbelly lyrics are "I guess you in my dreams"...but other sources say "I'll get you in my dreams". Design 00:35, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Not anymore! --Kschwerdt514 04:11, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

List of recorded versions[edit]

I know that Mississippi john hurt recorded a version, http://www.discogs.com/release/727481.

As did The Nields, on their 1995 EP "Abigail." From what I can tell, their recording is rather heavily influenced by Lead Belly's...

Lyrics and copyrights[edit]

There's undoubtably some value in discussing the changes made to the lyrics over the years by the various artists who've covered the song; the removal of the more controversial verses in the 1950s is particularly noteworthy.

But including complete lyrics (especially two different versions!) is pointless, ugly, and inconsistent. Plus it violates WP:SONG#LYRICS. Plus it's not clear (to me) that these lyrics are actually public domain. They're clearly based on an old folk song, but that might not matter; after all, lots of copyrighted material is based on non-copyrighted sources. I don't know enough about copyright law to say for sure, but until someone can, the lyrics shouldn't be here.

Plus they're pointless!

LSD (talk) 18:27, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

There is no mention of Leon Russell's cover of Goodnight Irene on his album "Hank's Back" from 1973. Leon Russell is a member of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and cohort of Elton John. His cover is worthy of mention. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.125.56.14 (talk) 02:15, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

I added it to the list. Hank Wilson's Back does not have its own page! So I will try to work something up for that too. Grandma kristin (talk) 02:21, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

Jimi Hendrix[edit]

My understanding is that Jimi Hendrix played guitar on the Little Richard version, but I'm not 100% sure where I got that from. Is that worthy of mention and does anyone have a reference?

I'm guessing he didn't if the recording date is 1972...Anderfreude (talk) 23:02, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

First Recording date?[edit]

The date listed as first recording of Irene Goodnight is 1932. Lead Belly according to historical notes did not meet Lomax until July 1933. Did Lead belly have access to recording equipment prior to the first Lomax recordings? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.26.7 (talk) 11:08, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Same Tune, Different Words[edit]

Perhaps there should be a section about folk singers who have written other lyrics to the tune of Irene Goodnight. For example, Woody Guthrie's songs Roll on Columbia Roll on, and Chain around my Leg both use slightly modified versions of the tune of Irene Goodnight. Does anyone know other examples of this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.211.131.240 (talk) 15:42, 14 July 2012 (UTC)