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Football[edit]

Weren't Gotham City's football team killed off in the pages of DEMON? Lots42 (talk) 07:22, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

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In Case I Forget[edit]

A few-years-old Adam Strange limited series actually named one of the Gotham airports. This should be noted just for the naming, even if it is not accepted as canon. I'd put it in but I'm not sure where the Strange issue is at the moment. Lots42 (talk) 17:32, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Crime[edit]

My wife and I went to Gotham City several years ago for our honeymoon and didn't see any of this nonsense that this article speaks about. This article looks like original research and is very misleading to people seeking information about tourism in Gotham. The city council should be up in arms about this article making the city look like a haven for criminals and nutcases. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.15.63.4 (talk) 17:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Gotham City is a fictional city, unless you're talking about New York City, because New York City's nickname is Gotham. It is not Gotham City, just Gotham. Please give us some valid information. The Joker's Woman[BlackPearl14contribs!] 23:21, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
I believe this is what we would call a joke.76.223.247.115 (talk) 18:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, well, jokes aren't permitted so I'm treating it as I should be. The Joker's Woman[BlackPearl14contribs!] 04:01, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Pronunciation[edit]

How is Gotham pronounced? Goth-am or Got-ham?--80.141.245.213 (talk) 13:07, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

Gotham City is always pronounced "Gahth-um." The English town is pronounced "Goht-um" according to its entry in Wikipedia, although the present article seems to think it's like "Gaht-um". 173.16.252.154 (talk) 20:30, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
The real-life Gotham has a silent H, much like Chatham. The fictional Gotham in Batman is pronounced like GOTH-uhm, probably influenced by the word "Gothic". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.45.196.227 (talk) 17:53, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Images[edit]

There are quite few non-free images which could be reduced to better reflect minimal use. I would suggest removing the Driver's Liscence, Batman Returns,the Long Halloween image. I've removed Arkham: The Animated Series, as the image was reduped on the Arkham page. -Sharp962 (talk) 02:35, 10 September 2009 (UTC).

I cut a few. Aside from the redundant city maps, the driver's license ID image was used to support original research, so it had another reason for removal. WesleyDodds (talk) 03:36, 10 September 2009 (UTC)

New Jersey?[edit]

I think the reference to the Palisades in The Dark Knight does NOT mean Gotham City is in New Jersey. For one, Bruce Wayne could simply be lying to protect his idenity. Secondly, the dialogue is roughly

Wayne: I grew up here
Dent: So Wayne Manor is in Gotham City
Wayne: The Palisades. I think you should learn where your jurisdiction ends.

My reading of this is that it would indicate just outside city limits, as the Palisades are just outside New York City. Saying I grew up HERE would be be colloquial. Especially if as a rich kid, he would have spent a lot of time in the City.

Thing is, that's from the movie. So while that might be true in the case of the movie, that doesn't mean that's true in the comics, in the first series of movies, or in any of the Batman cartoons. And with Gotham, I'm pretty sure writers avoid giving any clues where it might be in the "real world" (in fact, a lot of times you might see the license plate of a car in Gotham City as "Gotham state" or something like that). Anakinjmt (talk) 05:21, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, this is why the reference to the Palisades, a real place, sticks out in the movie.67.243.180.190 (talk) 06:01, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Couldn't more then one geographic location be called the Palisades? Lots42 (talk) 10:21, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, on the East Coast of the US alone, there are three places called the Palisades: the Palisades in New York, Palisades Park, New Jersey, and the neighborhood called the Palisades in D.C. There very well could be a fictional Gotham Palisades. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.193.200.137 (talk) 18:44, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
  • There is a real "Gotham Parkway" located in Carlstadt (Bergen County), New Jersey, not too far from the Meadowlands Racetrack (horses) and the Metlife Stadium (where the NFL Giants play). You can find it on Google Maps. Gamweb (talk) 02:25, 7 February 2014 (UTC)

Also correct pronounciation[edit]

It's pronounced GOTH-um.67.243.180.190 (talk) 00:08, 12 November 2009 (UTC)

Just like goddamn. Strange, eh? ;) 85.66.217.226 (talk) 10:37, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

Return of Bruce Wayne[edit]

Why no mention of the events of the Return of Bruce Wayne in the history of Gotham section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.231.242.193 (talk) 21:17, 17 June 2010 (UTC)

Gotham City as Chicago[edit]

There's a good argument to be made that Gotham City is Chicago. The article already mentions that Chicago, like Gotham City, has a history of organised crime and corruption, and an abundance of back alleyways. There's also the fact that Chicago is known for its dramatic architecture, and the fact that New York is already represented in the DC universe by Metropolis. 96.45.196.227 (talk) 18:03, 2 July 2010 (UTC)

Um, what? No facts exist for either assertation. Lots42 (talk) 04:01, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

Gotham as New York (or Chicago) is pretty close to OR[edit]

The link to Gotham city as New York is pretty flaky and should either be fixed or entirely removed. The only actual statement that links the two is one writer's quote and the rest is just statements about New York being nicknamed Gotham. Although those statements are sourced the implied link is very OR. I don't think it should say Chicago either because there's nothing concrete backing that either but assuming that sourced statements can't be found the sentence in the first paragraph needs to be cut as well as most of the geography of Gotham section and a good many other statements. Cat-five - talk 01:06, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Thread started at Wikipedia:No_original_research/Noticeboard#Gotham_City_and_OR_by_reference to try to get a more thorough discussion going. Cat-five - talk 01:12, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

Withdrawing this, after re-reading it does seem to make sense although it could definitely use some trimming on the parts about Gotham being a nickname for New York historically (which is brought up at least 3 times in the article). Cat-five - talk 01:39, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Issue four of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manhattan_Guardian says Gotham City is south of New York, with Slaughter Swamp in between. Lots42 (talk) 16:58, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Gotham is now a Western city?[edit]

Maybe I'm misreading the announcement, but DC's new All-Star Western series (see here) has Jonah Hex relocating to Gotham. We should watch to see what clues the new series gives us about Gotham's location, especially if it's in a book titled "Western".... Aristophanes68 (talk) 16:20, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

I think Western refers to the genre, not an official location. Lots42 (talk) 08:09, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, but the location follows the genre. Westerns are set on "the frontier", the edge of civilisation where bounty hunters like Hex are needed to round up outlaws, while "back East" is the settled and comfortable area where unworldly city-folk come from.
So I agree with Aristophanes68, the portrayal of Gotham in this book should give some clues to its location. If Jonah is a fish-out-of-water in a moderately large city with a modern police force, and the local criminals are more like the Gangs of New York than the Wild Bunch, then Gotham's probably on the East Coast. If it's more like a frontier boom town just developing into a city, it's more likely to be in the West. 86.152.78.45 (talk) 19:50, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Important city information[edit]

Unfortunately, Cincinnati was deleted from being listed as an urban inspiration for the city, alongside Pittsburgh and New York et al., in the intro/opener. This needs to be redone to include it, as it's urban subway system and museum center served as key inspirations, as well as its overall Art-Deco style. Please undo the deletion. --Evidian8 (talk) 06:51, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, Evidian. New sections and messages go at the bottom. They do not go at the top, nor should they be placed at both the top and bottom.
As for the material in question, please see Wikipedia:Verifiability, Wikipedia:No Original Research, Wikipedia:Identifying Reliable Sources. Thank you. Nightscream (talk) 07:25, 21 July 2012 (UTC)

Infodump: Sources and reading material for the Nolanverse Gotham City[edit]

I don't know if you already have these, but...

Of course, this doesn't explain why the Chicago Sears Tower is visible in TDK but the NYC Freedom Tower is visible in TDKR... :-)

Regards, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 23:10, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Your work is appreciated. However, sites with user-generated content, such as wikis, fans sites and image-hosting websites, cannot be used as sources under Wikipedia:USERG, because anyone can submit material to them (although the "No Man's Land" map is already in the article].
However, I think /Film is legit. Unfortunately, I don't see any map on that page (maybe I'm missing a plug-in or something?), but then again, the author says that it comes from Brandon T. Snider, author of The Dark Knight Manual, so that brings up another good source. Thanks again. Nightscream (talk) 23:35, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
The slashfilm link does have a map on it here, tho' I don't know if it's visible in your browser. It's the same map as this article (the map itself is held here) although the colors are slightly different - jpg is a lossy format, so a copy-of-a-copy-of-a-copy...of-a-copy will not have the same colors of the original. A google search shows that the same map is also here and here. I don't know if any of this is useable. Apols, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 00:12, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
Incidentally, the photo of the Gotham Transit Authority subway map here used on set in Newark during the filming of TDKR can be sourced to this article. That may be more helpful. Regards, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 00:21, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 15 August 2012[edit]

In ether the first or second Nolan movie his Lamborghini has a california plate Pksmjshddsu (talk) 13:30, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Source? (Please see WP:V, WP:PSTS, et al.). Nightscream (talk) 14:21, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 8 November 2012[edit]

Undo this edit, which is presumably vandalism. 86.167.19.237 (talk) 03:38, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Done, but I prefer to assume good faith. Some folks don't realize that haven is a real world, and the editor might have been thinking they were performing a valid spelling correction. RudolfRed (talk) 04:09, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

Edit request on 24 February 2013[edit]

"Instant Freeze" is the episode with the Giant Lighted Lucite Map of Gotham City. I added that information here, as well as on the IMDB page. D. Silverman, Assistant Professor of Communication Studies, Kansas Wesleyan University Dsilverm (talk) 07:02, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

It's the episode of which show? Nightscream (talk) 20:52, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
I have closed this edit request as stale. The OP is welcome to re-activate it if s/he can respond to the question above. —KuyaBriBriTalk 16:30, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Young Justice Episode[edit]

Apologies, I don't know how to edit the citation myself, but the YJ episode where Gotham was revealed as being in Southern Conneticut was Season 1, episode 5: Schooled. Early in the episode, it can be seen on a map as Batman is giving the team their assignment. Hope this helps. 50.53.167.121 (talk) 22:31, 23 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! For future reference, you can use the TV episode citation template, which can be found at WP:Citation templates. Nightscream (talk) 01:08, 24 March 2013 (UTC)

Edit request on 2 September 2013[edit]

Gotham is also the name of the city in the honeymooners. Ralph Kramden one of the main characters drive the city bus for Gotham city. 69.157.112.11 (talk) 00:10, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Yes, that's then name of the company, but according to Honeymooners, it is set in Brooklyn, not "Gotham". RudolfRed (talk) 01:25, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 December 2013[edit]

We would like to please add a "Theme Parks" heading below the "Video Games" heading. The theme park attraction "Justice League: Alien Invasion 3D" should be added as an example of Gotham City being used in a theme park environment. It is a dark ride built by Sally Corporation that uses Gotham City as a main location inside the attraction. The ride opened in September of 2012 at Warner Bros. Movie World in Gold Coast, Australia. It was designed by Rich Hill (a notable theme park designer). <Justice League: Alien Invasion 3D>

SallyCorporation (talk) 19:12, 19 December 2013 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ~ Boomur [] 01:47, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2014[edit]

On the page about Gotham city, notable businesses section, ace chemicals is incorrect.the correct name of the company is axis chemicals. Source "batman" Jerebak5 (talk) 16:55, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 20 January 2014[edit]

In the DC Animated Universe, the movie "Batman & Mr. Freeze: SubZero" clearly indicates Gotham City as being in NY, in a scene where Bruce Wayne pulls up Barbara Gordon's medical records on a hospital computer. This same shot also lists her phone number beginning with the 212 area code,indicating Manhattan

99.8.138.109 (talk) 07:09, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

Not done: This page is no longer protected. Subject to consensus, you should be able to edit it yourself. Jackmcbarn (talk) 22:58, 26 January 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism[edit]

This text:

Film adaptations have varied: Tim Burton's Gotham was based primarily on Gotham, while the films directed by Christopher Nolan have shown a Gotham more closely based on Gotham.

makes no sense. 89.71.129.66 (talk) 02:24, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

That passage (and others) was vandalized yesterday by someone editing with the IP 69.127.17.33. I've reverted it. Thanks for pointing it out. Nightscream (talk) 04:30, 29 March 2014 (UTC)