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Bizarre discussion[edit]

how did the great commision influence exploration, colonization, and the spread of free democracy?

It gave the Europeans an excuse to go around murdering the leaders of foreign lands and taking all their gold, and buy or kidnap their people to work on cotton plantations.
Unsigned comment is outside the scope of both the main article and this talk page. DFH 15:04, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
George Hamilton wrote an account of the voyage of HMS Pandora in which he hoped that Fletcher Christian, if not captured, might be a civilizing influence on the South Sea Islanders: "so that, at some future period, a British Ilion may blaze forth in the south with all the characteristic virtues of the English nation, and complete the great prophecy, by propagating the Christian knowledge amongst the infidels." 203.17.70.161 04:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Sept 05[edit]

I made some edits which attempt to remove what looked like a POV bias to me. Hope it looks OK. Happy to discuss the edits. KHM03 12:58, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

KJV[edit]

I think that using the King James' Version is a mistake here. Its hard to read and not the version most coommonly used by Christians. NIV instead perhaps? 129.234.4.10 12:42, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

"Coomonly?" I don't understand! You must be using an English dialect I have difficulty with! 207.238.52.162 (talk) 15:35, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

Coomonly vs coommonly --> talk about irony! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.245.236.147 (talk) 08:13, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

Christian Dominionism ?[edit]

This section seems to be very POV. It should be either removed or reworded. DFH 14:54, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

I see that an article for Dominionism already exists, so it seems pointless to re-iterate a discussion about the Dominionist view of the Great Commission in this article. I therefore propose that this whole section should be removed. DFH 15:10, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
Done. Refer to the main article's history to see what was removed. DFH 15:13, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

External links removed[edit]

I have removed all four external links, because none of them satisfied Wikpedia criteria for inclusion. DFH 15:02, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikilinking words from within a quoted Scripture text?[edit]

I see disadvantages in wikilinking words and phrases from within a quoted Scripture passage. It gives undue emphasis, and creates a false impression that the Bible is a hypertext document. Words within Scripture quotations that require further explanation should be amplified in the main encyclopedic description paragraghs, and then linked only if necessary. DFH 15:21, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Categories[edit]

I removed Category:Christian and Jewish interfaith topics, as it seems to be not of the essence of the main article. No doubt many items in Christian theology are interfaith topics of one sort or another, but it hardly seems a sufficient reason for thus categorizing this article. DFH 15:40, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

scholars of the historical Jesus[edit]

It's true that the JS doesn't represent "most scholars," but the text doesn't claim that. It's referring to scholars of the historical Jesus, most of whom don't include the resurrection in their historical reconstruction of Jesus. A few do, but the text says "generally." Jonathan Tweet 01:51, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Matthew 24:14[edit]

This seems to be another relevant Scriptural reference. 203.17.70.161 04:19, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

high-start[edit]

This is a high-importance, start-class article, and I'm willing to do some work to get it moving. Jonathan Tweet 17:04, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

I described the great commissions that appear in the five books cited. It's a start. Jonathan Tweet 20:41, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Reference link?[edit]

I'm trying to add reference 1, but it won't link to anything. I copy-pasted the reference from somewhere else on Wiki that uses the same source (different page #s), but it won't work over here. Perhaps someone can fix it? ThanksEsdraelon 00:01, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

"Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" is not Trinitarianism[edit]

It is simply false that "in the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit" is a "Trinitarian formula." Nearly every non-Trinitarian theology that has ever existed in Christianity has included these same three figures, in the same order. Trinitarianism is not simply a list of three persons, it is the assertion that these three persons are all co-equal and co-eternal God persons inside a triune Godhead, a formula that is not at all found in the text in question. Jnelsonleith (talk) 02:05, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

You're right. But if the experts call it the Trinitarian formula then we sort of have to. The question is, what do the experts call it? Leadwind (talk) 07:07, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

can't find in my bible[edit]

Under the heading "New Testament accounts", I read the statement "In John, Jesus says the disciples will have the Holy Spirit and the authority to forgive sins and to withhold forgiveness." What chapter and verse is this in? I can't find anywhere in the book of John (or anywhere else in the Bible) where man is given the authority to forgive or withhold forgiveness. If this cannot be verified, could that sentence be deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.121.184 (talk) 04:02, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

John 20:23 - "If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.117.107.182 (talk) 16:23, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
Also, Matthew 16:19 - "I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."

Rambling?[edit]

Who the heck altered the

Events in the
Life of Jesus
according to the Gospels
Life of Jesus
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template/category thingy? It's messing up the top of the article, and I don't know how to fix it. --Jay (Histrion) (talkcontribs) 15:27, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

The great commission is the regathering of the lost tribes of Israel[edit]

Jesus said do not go into the ways of the gentiles, but to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. That is about the split of Israel into the house of Judah and the house of Israel. The commission is to bring them back for the rule of Christ from Jerusalem. The topic is way off as written. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.103.81.109 (talk) 19:06, 10 July 2010 (UTC)

confusion under Etymology heading[edit]

"Why anyone would want to not fulfill the great commission is a matter of great bewilderment to Jesus, who seemed to emphasize it so clearly, repeating it as his final words five times, as if to make it amazingly clear what the final emphasis of the entirety of his teaching actually should be." This sentence seems entirely out of context. It is also a matter of great bewilderment to me, i.e., it's grammatically confused and I'm unaware of where Jesus repeats the great commission fie times. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.39.94 (talk) 20:10, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

One-side, biased, anti-Christian article[edit]

Virtually all of the content in this is written from the point of view that the Great Commission was an invention of later generations, or that it does not apply to anyone but the original apostles. The research of a few fringe theories and fringe minority seminars is being held up at the expense of the long=-held, majority view that has been widely accepted by most churches and parishoners for untold centuries, so this article needs to be overhauled in favor of a more balanced viewpoint; one which relegates the fringe theories to the fringes. 68.173.59.5 (talk) 20:54, 20 April 2011 (UTC)

Move?[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 06:25, 21 January 2012 (UTC)



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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

"presumably"?[edit]

Regarding, "which presumably happened," near the beginning of the article, the word "presumably" should be referenced. GaryGo (talk) 14:46, 11 August 2012 (UTC)