Talk:Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch

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Should this article be merged with Syrian Orthodox Church? Aren't these just two different names for the same thing?


Ah, there's the rub. There are actually two groups who lay claim to 'Syrian Orthodox'. One is part of the Oriental Orthodox Communion, and calls itself the "Syrian Orthodox Church". The other is part of the Eastern Orthodox Communion and calls itself the "Antiochian Orthodox Church"--although they called themselves the "Syrian Orthodox Church" until fairly recently. Dogface 04:39, 5 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Women as theological figures[edit]

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Latin rite[edit]

The Roman Catholic Church also claimed the patriarchate and appointed titular Latin rite patriarchs for many centuries, until the office was left perpetually vacant as of 1964.

Why was it left vacant? To avoid confrontation? Where were the Latin-rite followers redirected to? --84.20.17.84 11:35, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Greek Orthodox?[edit]

Is it really appropriate to continue to refer to institutions of the Chalcedonian Orthodox Church of Antioch as "Greek Orthodox", given the growing realization of this church as a substantially Arabic church rather than a Greek church? I've seen a number of other articles that make reference to Church of Antioch institutions and refer to them as "Greek Orthodox". Deusveritasest (talk) 21:21, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

The "Arab Orthodox" terminology/polemics is specific to Israel and Jordan = the areas under the nominal jurisdiction of the Patriarchate of Jerusalem, where autochthonous “Levantine Greco-Rûm” Christian priests and community leaders (natives of Jerusalem, Haifa, Lydda, Nazareth, Ramallah, Bethlehem, Northern Israel, and Northern Jordan) have been fighting a sort of “cold culture war” against the “European Greek” high-clergy. This cultural-political phenomenon is specific to the Southern Middle East (Israel, the West Bank and Jordan) and thus doesn’t concern the “sister Church” in the North = the Greek Orthodox Church of Antioch (Syria, Lebanon and Southern Turkey).
Members of all Greek Orthodox and Greek Catholic Churches of Southern Turkey and the MENA area still call themselves Rûm which literally means "Eastern Roman" or “Asian Greek” in Turkish, Persian and Arabic.
The term Rûm is used in preference to “Ionani" or Yavani which means “European Greek” or "Ionian" in Classical Arabic and Hebrew. --B.Andersohn (talk) 11:05, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
Greek Orthodox is the term the patriarchate uses for itself in English publications (e.g., on its official website: http://www.antiochpat.org/ ).
As for Rûm (in Arabic and Turkish), it literally means "Roman," not "Eastern Roman" or "Asian Greek," etc. EmausPriester (talk) 01:42, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
NO: you're wrong. "Rûm" clearly means "Eastern Roman" i.e. "Greeks" (and Macedonians and Greek-speaking Roman settlers and Hellenized Jewish converts to Christianity... etc. = "extended Greeks") living in the Eastern part of what was formerly known as the Roman Empire = "Asian Greeks" or "Byzantines".
In Arabic and Arabic-influenced Medieval Turkish and Persian, "Roman" is "Rumânn" or (the more literary) "Latiniyyûn". That's a fact. --B.Andersohn (talk) 14:42, 30 July 2012 (UTC)

numbers[edit]

I think there are more than 1 million followers of the Greek Orthodox church of Antioch, especially in the Middle East.♥Yasmina♥ (talk) 22:56, 27 February 2010 (UTC)