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Is anyone positive the line in the song "Movin' Out" is actually referring to Hackensack, New Jersey? ...I live in Jersey, and I can tell you, no one would refer to Hackensack as "out in Hackensack," especially from Billy Joel's perspective, which is New York, usually. I only ask because Hackensack, NJ doesn't really fit the picture Billy Joel is trying to paint in that song...and there's a Hackensack, Minnesota, and I have relativs who've been there, and say it's kind of middle-of-nowhere-ish. Just thought I'd bring this up. (Isn't there a killer skate park in your town, by the way? I think I've been there a few times...) --Wild One 04:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
I grew up in River Edge, next to Hackensack, and I'm close to Joel's age. I went to summer camp with New Yorkers and I swear, they acted like Jersey was out in the boonies somewhere. Joel sings the song from the 1950's New York City immigrant working class perspective, when getting a house out in Hackensack — which still had a lot of nearby farmland — was a status move, and an isolating one at that. So was moving out to Long Island, but the lyric wouldn't have the same kick. NjtoTX 00:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
Joel grew up in New York (and still lives there on Long Island) and mentions New York in numerous songs, whether it be "New York State of Mind" or several others. I'm not an expert, but I believe it is Hackensack, NJ, and yes I believe what NjtoTX said above is true as well. Joel addresses his opinion about 'moving up' in the song, and how he doesn't share the same perspective of what 'moving up' is with what seems to be that of most others at the time (i.e. making more money and moving up in status/society). I believe that the lyrics "Who needs a house out in Hackensack? Is that all you get for your money?" and "Mamma if that's movin' up, then I'm movin' out" can be interpreted to mean that Joel sees something different/more in life to success/moving up than just earning money and (for example, as in the lyrics) buying a house out in Hackensack. Hence his statement "If that's movin' up, then I'm moving out" conveying that if (for example) buying an expensive house out in Hackensack is considered 'moving up' in life, then he is 'movin' out'. Though I don't know if this was the same in the 50's as NjtoTX was saying, it would also make sense for him to use Hackensack as an example for moving up (besides the fact that Joel lives and breathes New York and it's metropolitan area) since many people for several decades who have high paying jobs in the city tend to live across the Hudson in Hackensack. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 04:48, 28 May 2010 (UTC)