Talk:Hamlet (place)

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Discussion 1[edit]

User:William Allen Simpson seems to have problems with understanding of

In numerous provinces in Canada, there are officially designated municipalities, generally smaller than villages, classified as hamlets. There are some exceptions, such as Sherwood Park, Alberta, which has a population of more than 50,000 – well above that needed for city status — but which has retained hamlet status

and constantly deletetes the Category:Subnational entities with the claim that it is not a subnational entity or not an administrative division.

He is known for making wrong claims and insisting on them without any possibility to talk. See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (subnational entities). Don't be surprised if he will start calling other peoples contributions vandalism.

Someone else is obsessed with called Fort MacMurray a hamelt when it is not. It is an unincorporated urban zone with the funding status of a city. I get this information from the regional communications officer, who emphatically said it is not a hamlet and quoted from the regional amalgamation agreement.

WP:CITE. --Yamla 22:11, 25 May 2007 (UTC)

Tobias Conradi (Talk) 17:33, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

separate places named "Hamlet" from meanings of "hamlet"[edit]

(see also Talk:Hamlet (disambiguation))

The present page should be divided up in

  • places named "Hamlet",
  • meanings of the word "hamlet"

rather than dividing it in Geographical sections containing each a mixture of both of the above: I think its not useful to classify "Hamlet (Oregon)" in the same section than "in (...) New York, hamlets are unincorporated areas...", for example.MFH:Talk 19:18, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I thought Hamlet (Oregon) was like Hamlet, Indiana or so... in fact, it should be referred to as hamlet (Oregon) to avoid such a confusion. — MFH:Talk 19:31, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

(place)[edit]

I think this page should be moved to Hamlet(settlement) or Hamlet(Municipality). Place is very general and could include the things mentioned above, as well as Hamlet Place(a street in New Jersey) or other things--Whytecypress 20:37, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Untrue information[edit]

"The name comes from Anglo-Norman hamelet(t)e; Old North French hamelet, the diminutive of Old North French hamel, another diminutive of Old North French ham of Germanic origin, cognate with Dutch heem, German Heim, Swiss German cham or -kon, Old English hām and Modern English home, all derived from the Proto-Germanic *kham-.[1]" It's extremely unlikely that that few if any Old French words were borrowed from, or originated from Proto-Germanic. There is no verifiable evidence for this and I believe this excerpt is just poorly written enough to imply that the Old French term for hamlet is descended from Proto-Germanic. A change might be necessary.Napkin65 (talk) 14:49, 22 June 2010 (UTC)


Update: I checked the Oxford English Dictionary and its etymology of the word is as follows: [a. OF. hamelet, in AFr. also hamelete, hamlette, (med.L. hameletum, -letta), secondary dim. of hamel: see HAMEL.] Now that is not to say the Old French word from which "hamlet" is descended does not have a Germanic cognate, it does mean however that the Old French word is not derivative of a Germanic root. I'm going to go ahead and fix it.Napkin65 (talk) 14:59, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

Population[edit]

What are the population margins for a hamlet?

To complete[edit]

I propose to add Galician and Asturian (Sapin) hemlets, called "aldeas" (as well as other regions with this type of territorial organizations, as French Britain, in order to complete the document. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.111.155.172 (talk) 11:54, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

German hamlets[edit]

Someone needs to add German hamlets; Jamel is quite an infamous example of one. Stonemason89 (talk) 20:04, 16 January 2011 (UTC)

This was added, but I have removed it. Jamel is classified as a village, not a hamlet. Any examples of hamlets added to this article must first explain the legal definition of a hamlet in that country, and give example(s) of municipalities that fall under that classification.
Also, the phrase "Jamel is an infamous example of a hamlet ruled by neo-Nazis" is certainly not written in a neutral point of view. Jersey emt (talk) 19:09, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

Canadian "hamlets"[edit]

From the article, Canadian hamlets are village sized, and not what I would call hamlets, which would have a population of less than say twenty people and have around half a dozen houses or less. Or is the Canadian information some kind of vandalism? 92.28.255.228 (talk) 17:23, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

Hamlet definitions and sizes differ from country to country. Within countries, they can differ between their provinces, states, and territories. What a hamlet is typically known as in the UK can be different than what it is typically known as in the US. Similarly, what a hamlet is within the Province of Alberta in Canada is different that what it is within any of Canada's three territories.

All the content within the "Canada" section is supported by references that are reliable sources, with the exception of one excerpt relating to Ontario. In fact, 13 of the article's 16 references are inline citations from within the "Canada" section. Content based on references from reliable sources does not constitute vandalism. Hwy43 (talk) 06:23, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Weiler and Heim[edit]

Both "Weiler 2 and "Heim" are southern expressions. Where do you get your information that they mainly exist in the south? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.220.132.212 (talk) 08:24, 12 April 2012 (UTC)

Exactly, in northern Germany -trup or -torp are two of the terms used. Another example for namings of hamlets are the -inghausen settlements in southern Westphalia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.230.128.78 (talk) 10:57, 27 September 2013 (UTC)