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Name[edit]

I never really paid a good deal to this article as maybe I should have, but it's bugging me lately that the name is off. First: I don't think there is a real need to disambiguate the name, as I don't think the term "handling machine" is common, at least not to the point where there is going to be confusion. Second: Wells spells it in lowercase. If no one has any objection to a move, I'll do so after a period. --Bacteria 11:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

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Requested move 30 November 2013[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Moved: Handling-machine To: Handling machine (The War of the Worlds) Prhartcom (talk) 17:08, 7 December 2013 (UTC)


(non-admin closure)

Handling-machineHandling machine (The War of the Worlds) – I believe that "handling-machine" and handling machine should both redirect to Material handling equipment, our article on real world handling machines, and a hatnote there should point back to this article 65.94.78.70 (talk) 07:23, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
  • Oppose - see comment below. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 13:58, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
    • I have no problem with removing the hyphen from the target name. I am the nominator. -- 65.94.78.70 (talk) 04:24, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
      • I also have no problem with majisculing the letters H and M -- 65.94.78.70 (talk) 04:14, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Support. Rlsheehan (talk) 18:00, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Any additional comments:
  • In my copy (Pan, 1975), a quick scan shows Wells referring to it as a "Handling Machine" (capitalised, no hyphen - p. 177 ff.). Unless other editions differ or Wells' editor varies his grammar, the primary article should be moved to Handling Machine (The War of the Worlds) and others should redirect to it. FYI I also find in there "Fighting Machine" (pp. 171) but cannot quickly find the flying variety. No sign of any hyphens for the "Machines", just for the Heat-Ray. It is abundantly clear that Wells or his Editor used the terms and grammatical forms current at the time, and the exact word forms used have no encyclopedic status. Some Wells fan has got everything in a muddle and it all needs a dose of good, strong daylight to clear it up. — Cheers, Steelpillow (Talk) 13:59, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
  • I agree with those who suggest this article should be renamed to "Handling machine (The War of the Worlds)" and rename the other two articles to "Flying machine (The War of the Worlds)" and "Fighting machine (The War of the Worlds)". If you agree to this, please give your support in the discussion below, and I will be glad to rework the proposed move request and handle the moves themselves. Note: Of course the "H" of "Handling" and the "m" of "machine" would be upper and lower case respectively like any Wikipedia article title. That was a good idea about removing the hyphen for all three as Wells did not use it. If necessary we can post a hatnote at the top of the article for any non-War of the Worlds articles. I will post a similar statement on the other two article title discussions. Cheers. Prhartcom (talk) 00:09, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.

"fighting machine"[edit]

The usage of Fighting machine (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs|views) and fighting-machine is under discussion, see talk:Tripod (The War of the Worlds). "fighting machine" is currently used for a real world military topic. "Tripod" is a science fiction topic. -- 65.94.78.70 (talk) 07:23, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

"flying-machine"[edit]

The usage of Flying-machine (edit|talk|history|protect|delete|links|watch|logs|views) and flying machine is under discussion, see talk:flying-machine. "flying machine" is currently used for a real world aeronautical topic. "Flying-machine" is a science fiction topic. -- 65.94.78.70 (talk) 07:23, 30 November 2013 (UTC)