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The above two external links were removed for not complying with WP:EL. There were readded with the edit summary "rv. el is only guideline, and the blog/wiki point is itself a very weakly worded one. the wiki page has info on howitwork and whatitdoes; blog makes insightful point about design philosophy of happs". It's being brought here for discussion.

The relevant lines in the guidelines are;

  • Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority.
  • Links to open wikis, except those with a substantial history of stability and a substantial number of editors.

The blog makes no assertion that the writer is a 'recognized authority.' His bio reads, in full, "I'm funky like your grandpa's drawers - don't test me. I'm in like that. You're dead like Presley."

The wiki shows evidence (on the Community page) of persistent vandalism, refuting the idea that it has stability. Pairadox 19:17, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

The wiki does not show evidence. Those posts are from way back in '06. Did you check the history of the specific article, or look at their Recentchanges? The article in particular shows no evidence of any vandalism, ever.
The blog is there so I don't have to summarize the exact same points in the article. What he's talking about is precisely one of the points of interest in HAppS.
And finally, in general: EL is a guideline. Not a policy. This means it is not mandatory and can be lightly overridden where it doesn't suit the circumstances, in exactly the same way the MOS can be ignored if it seems best. Further, the specific point you are relying on, that blogs and wikis are not favored, is itself tentative and not a hard and fast rule. In short, both links are extremely useful for the article, and your argument is just a weak section of a weak guideline. That's all. --Gwern (contribs) 00:15 12 September 2007 (GMT)