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Problems with article (earlier version)
This article seems to have some factual errors, and relies on just one source. I am re-writing the article using William Supernaugh's well referenced article on Yount's life as the primary source, and using a variety of other sources as well. Cullen328 (talk) 20:01, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
- The lead to be expanded so as to better summarise the article. Probably needs to be about three times its current length, covering the main point(s) from each of the major sections.
Date and place of birth
- "He was the tenth child born to his father". Children are usually born to a mother. Do we not know who Harry's mother was?
Civil War military service
- The caption under the painting of the Battle of Pea Ridge says that Yount was captured during that battle, but the text to the right says he was captured in a skirmish before the battle.
Hunter and trapper
- "Yount also had some success as a prospector." What did he prospect for? Gold?
Gamekeeper in Yellowstone National Park
- We're told twice, in two separate quotations, that Yount recommended that no one man could patrol the park, which seems like unnecessary redundancy. I'd suggest dropping the "... and concluded that protection of the park 'cannot be done by any one man'" immediately before the first quotation.
First National Park Ranger
- "Stephen Mather, the first director of the National Park Service, wrote the forward to this book". Presumably this should be "foreword", not "forward"?
Homesteader and prospector
- "After he resigned from his job in Yellowstone, Yount lived for a while in a community called Uva in Laramie County, Wyoming." That seems unnecessarily prolix; why not just "lived for a while in Uva in Laramie County, Wyoming"?
- "He homesteaded in the area in 1887". Is there a convenient wikilink for "homesteading"? Those of us fortunate enough to live in God's own land may well have very little idea what homesteading means. Did he, for instance build a home in the area in 1887, having until then lived a tent?
- You really need to provide at least one citation for this section.
- Malleus/Eric, thank you very much for your comments. It has taken me some time to do the work. I believe that I have made all the improvements that you suggested, and more, and accordingly have nominated this article for Good article. I also want to thank User:Rosiestep for a face to face review at an Edit-a-thon in San Francisco yesterday. Your input is also appreciated. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:23, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
- This review is transcluded from Talk:Harry Yount/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.
On first pass, this appears to be an exceptionally well-constructed article. I made a few small tweaks; please feel free to revert any with which you disagree. -- Khazar2 (talk) 23:11, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
|1a. the prose is clear and concise, it respects copyright laws, and the spelling and grammar are correct.||Prose is excellent; spotchecks show no copyright issues.|
|1b. it complies with the manual of style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.||I realize that this is contrary to the advice you got from another commenter, but the lead actually seems a touch long to me for the size of this article. It's within GA requirements, though, and I don't think it's necessary to change it.|
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|2c. it contains no original research.|
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|7. Overall assessment.||Pass as GA|