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The last sentence of the introductory paragraph, referring to "promiscuous young females" is inappropriate and should be deleted. - David Maulsby 2007 Oct 15 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maulsby (talkcontribs) 16:50, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

STRONGLY suggest merging this in with the yoga entry, which is already full of hatha info (and needs lots more on the other schools).

if the yoga entry ever overflows, we can consider busting out the various branches into their own entries. this is premature IMO. Anyone agree?O. Pen Sauce 08:16, 4 Nov 2003 (UTC)

==Hatha yoga== Hatha yoga is the traditonal form of yoga that is most associated with the alternative health movement. Of course, there is also the very modern Power Yoga which has absolutely nothing to do with either Hinduism or even Yoga. Thus, this article deserves to exist because it would be a good place talk the non-religous aspects of yoga. Or would you rather have that discussion take place in Yoga? -- John Gohde 15:36, 12 May 2004 (UTC)

First off, hatha yoga is eminently religious. Precedence should be thousands-year old history with sidenotes on Western uses. Of course, western 'yoga' forms are important, and they're huge now, with practitioners in the millions. But yoga is a Hindu philosophy and its foundation should be clearly explicated. yoga is not, by the way, a big philosophy with little branches like hatha, raja, bhakti, etc. What we know was Yoga philosophy is Raja. Hatha is a later school building on many of those precepts but specifically working on body-breath meditative toning techniques. Bhakti, jnana, and karma are particularly associated with orthodox HIndu religion, as is Raja, though hatha has both a Hindu and a secular Western face. Thus, these should not be merged as that would result in complete inaccuracy about the nature of these paths, whether traditional or modern. --LordSuryaofShropshire 05:31, Jun 20, 2004 (UTC)
As soon as we get enough information together for a separate article, we will create a new article. Until that time please bear with our alternative medicine section. -- [[User:Mr-Natural-Health|John Gohde | Talk]] 15:23, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Done, See Yoga (alternative medicine) -- [[User:Mr-Natural-Health|John Gohde | Talk]] 16:18, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

This article is rather weak. What, for instance, is the evidence that Hatha-Yoga derives from Hinayana Buddhism?

Deleted the sentence that Hatha-Yoha derives from Buddhism

economize whitespace[edit]

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On my Browser The image was moved from a black area where the Contents were to an area with text. I think this change may be viewed diffrently diffrent viewing settings--E-Bod 15:17, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

IPA[edit]

The IPA pronunciation is wrong because /θ/ does not exist in Sanskrit. It should either be /hät̪ə/ or /hät̪ʰə/. Which is correct? --Grammatical error 11:46, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Good point. "th" always = [t̪ʰ]. Additionally, Coulson's Teach Yourself Sanskrit says that Sanskrit did have ə or ʌ (Hindi certainly does). I'm going to make it /hət̪ʰ̪ə/.

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--Yoga Mat (talk) 19:55, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Reliable source for lede?[edit]

I'd rather a more scholarly reference, especially for the lede. Since it was added against WP:COI without comment, I've moved it here for discussion.

--Ronz (talk) 04:37, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

In other words, let's find a reliable, authoritative source please. --Ronz (talk) 07:32, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Potential references[edit]

--Ronz (talk) 17:02, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Dubious info in lede[edit]

Looking into the information in detail, I've removed the questionable source and tagged the information as dubious after skimming through Hatha Yoga: Its Context, Theory and Practice. Swatmarama doesn't appear to have introduced hatha yoga as much as he compiled earlier works. --Ronz (talk) 21:24, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

I've changed "introduced" to "described," but it would be nice to have a more authoritative and accessible source to draw upon. --Ronz (talk) 21:28, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Old commment[edit]

I am new to editing on Wikipedia. I have spent close to one hour trying to find out how to change something. If anyone reads this, please delete the second paragraph as it is grossly incorrect and the citation given doesn't pan out. The information in that paragraph is not found at that source. This is the paragraph in question: "The Sanskrit term haṭha refers to the use of persistence or force, and haṭhayoga is translated by the Monier-Williams dictionary as "a kind of forced Yoga or abstract meditation (forcing the mind to withdraw from external objects; treated of in the Haṭha‐pradīpikā by Svātmārāma and performed with much self‐torture, such as standing on one leg, holding up the arms, inhaling smoke with the head inverted &c.)." [1]" Haudegen (talk) 05:09, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

Removal of "indian philosophy"[edit]

I ask Yoonadue to stop edit warring in this page, and make discussion, because "Hatha Yoga" is founded by hindus, but doesn't means that no other religion or culture performs it. Bladesmulti (talk) 05:20, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Even Christians of west perform Hatha yoga. But that doesn't mean that templates like Christianity can be used here. The point is that sources say that the scriptures on which hatha yoga is based are Hindu scriptures (they can't be generalized saying they are Indian scriptures) and hence only Template:Hinduism is apt here. As far as my change of template is concerned, then let me ask Goodfaith17 first, what explanation he gave for this edit ? -Yoonadue (talk) 12:08, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Yoonadue, The culture belongs to India, not to Middle east, so why there would be a need to even think about christianity here? Bladesmulti (talk) 17:00, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
Nevertheless, i added one more source, hope this conflict is over now. Bladesmulti (talk) 15:51, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Clean-up[edit]

There was a lot of unsourced info at this page, which I have removed. Also some WP:UNDUE stuff on Raja Yoga, which I've also removed. So, who's going to write more on the history of Hatha Yoga, and on the practices? Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:21, 4 July 2014 (UTC)