Talk:Hayward, California

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Comment[edit]

I'm surprised there is no mention of the Hayward climate being by bay area standards -the best. Never cold,hot,too wet, or dry.Summers are spring like,Winters mild. Or,that Clint Eastwood grew up in Hayward,if not born here.22:22, 25 March 2007 209.244.43.90 (talk)(moved from Wikimedia Commons talk page for hayward ca)

Climate should definitely be mentioned, but its not much different from other cities. though the bay area is noted for having microclimates. Eastwood was a resident in Piedmont, not hayward, AFAIK.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:23, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Well,Wiki says Johannesburg is a "subtropical climate". Yet,its winter temperatures are colder then Hayward.

Also- Tom Hanks the actor went to Chabot College..and has done free events for the school. He always says nice things about the schools drama and credits it for helping him develop.

Is Jon Miller mentioned? The Baseball HOF announcer is from Hayward.

Census information[edit]

Made a correction of african amercian and white populations. Somebody incorrectly inserted 20% for African American and 32% for white.[1].Darwinzape 21:12, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

I verified the anon edit today.[2] Walter Siegmund (talk) 02:44, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

Template cleanup[edit]

I've cleaned up the hayward template. some items removed are: silver star veterans park (ipn)-cannot find info on it. Holiday Bowl-defunct bowling alley of minor historical interest (at least so far). Edwin Markham Elementary School, replaced by its replacement school. Buffalo Bills Brewery, first CA brewpub but no article♥. links to AC transit and Bart for west hayward may refer to the test yards and training yards, which dont have articles. Bret Hart Middle School, and Newman Park, no article yet, minor. hayward public library, no article. Impact Academy♥, placed a brief mention here. Fairway park, minor park. Im mentioning them here only to encourage other editors to first create articles for these subjects. if they turn out to be more notable than they seem, we can add them to the template. I also want to merge the "hayward attractions" template, but that can be discussed at the template talk pages. ok, ive removed the attractions template, as its just clutter. in that template were the following subjects without articles: Hayward Area Historical Society♥, and the McConaghy House. so two more potential articles. (♥ next to subjects added to article)Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:17, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Template merge completed.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:06, 24 October 2010 (UTC)

Places to add[edit]

Chapel of the Chimes, Lone Tree, Mount Eden and Holy Sepulchre cemetaries♥. Taper Park, Hayward Golf courses♥. St. Rose Hospital♥, Kaiser hospital♥. Green Belt Park♥. hayward salt flats. East Avenue Park. John f. Kennedy park/Mcconaghy house. hayward memorial park/hayward plunge♥. buffalo bills if its truly the first brewpub to open in california since prohibition♥(to downtown article). sulphur creek nature center♥. Hayward Hall of Justice, hayward police dept and jail♥(to courthouse article). Eden Congregational Church♥. Ron Simms' cycle shop♥ (he's actually quite a notable bike guy). There is also a large, unidentified historic property on Hesperian which i cant find info on, its not mconaghy house, just north of Chabot college. Oh, this is the Cornelius Mohr estate, [3], which is near the Hermann Mohr house, which has an image in the article. (links placed around articles created, ♥ next to subjects added to this article) Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:05, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

Images[edit]

Wikimedia commons has some very old stereoscopic images, that had not been categorized as related to hayward. they are now. The two distinct images would be good here.75.61.135.68 (talk) 06:06, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

New city report[edit]

2010 city report is available at [4]. data incorporated.(mercurywoodrose)76.245.46.57 (talk) 08:42, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Money magazine[edit]

minor mention, best places to retire, [5], not sure where this would go if anywhere(mercurywoodrose)76.245.46.57 (talk) 07:20, 15 February 2011 (UTC)

Correction, this is just a database listing, Hayward did NOT make any of the lists. Cant be mentioned in the body of the article, but may qualify as an external link for its store of data.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:38, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

Moved from article[edit]

could not find source for this, so i put it here for a researcher to find in a print source, if true:

In the late 1950s, Asian Americans began moving to a new housing development in south Hayward off Ruus Road. The developer was willing to sell new homes to Asian Americans, despite housing discrimination against minorities in California at that time.

Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:03, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Ive found a ref for this, at [6], so i may add this.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 16:53, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Images[edit]

This article would benefit from better images than the current crop, which is primarily aerial views indistinguishable from any other aerial view of any city on earth. photos on WP/WC should be information rich, which these arent. I plan to add images later this month (and i know im talking to myself here, but others MAY occasionally drop by to edit here)(mercurywoodrose)66.80.6.163 (talk) 22:31, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

bio refs[edit]

work in progress, ref tags empty, will complete.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:59, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Courtney Devine[edit]

All i can find is this imdb page, [7], which is not a reliable source for her birthplace, and which doesnt show enough notability as a porn star to have an article created. also on iafd, but this may not be reliable for birthplace as well [8]. IF she becomes notable enough for an article or article section, and we can confirm her birth place, she can be added here, but not before.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:56, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

Notables[edit]

from moreau catholic high article:

from hayward high:

I havent checked thoroughly for duplicates. 75.61.132.26 (talk) 06:04, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Mohr properties[edit]

Cornelius Mohr estate, and Hermann Mohr home, both notable, one has an image in article.[9](mercurywoodrose)12.125.80.214 (talk) 16:58, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Mickopedia[edit]

They give the city motto as "Heart of the bleedin' Bay", which might actually work...76.232.10.26 (talk) 04:03, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Good Article review request[edit]

Talk:Hayward, California/GA1 is a link to a GA review, deemed incomplete by other editors besides myself. the content doesnt belong here, as it would then appear to have been completed already. I'm providing the link for historic purposes only. As the GA review requester (and a major editor of the article), i cant comment on whether this review is complete, but i do know that the review, if not deemed complete, doesnt belong on the talk page in full. thanks to all who have paid any attention to date to this article.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:21, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

This article has a few significant and obvious issues that need to be resolved. It's full of "citation needed" tags, and the lead does not sufficiently cover the breadth of the article - Peripitus (Talk) 11:51, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
Thanks. now i have some idea of how to proceed with improvements to the article.very helpful, if daunting.(mercurywoodrose)108.94.0.199 (talk) 05:51, 1 July 2012 (UTC)

Obscure reference works[edit]

For anyone researching the history of hayward, these titles were used in the first edits to the article: Mt. Eden, Cradle of the Salt Industry in California by John Sandoval, published by Mt. Eden Historical Publishers, Hayward; Hayward ... the First 100Years by Eden Writers, Florence Carr Randall, editor, published by the Hayward Centennials Committee. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 01:18, 28 June 2012 (UTC)

Name history[edit]

It may well be impossible to actually disentangle the actual explanations here, but I did remove a bit that I am quite sure is false -- that the name 'Haywood' was used 'because it was not legal to name a post office after a living person'. There are numerous counterexamples, e.g. Annette, California, and my own hometown, Janesville, Wisconsin, which the Postmaster General indubitably named after the postmaster, Henry Janes, even though he had submitted the name 'Blackhawk' (since there was already a post office by that name in Wisconsin Territory). The explanation for 'Haywood' seems to have been there since what this article history calls a "student essay" was pasted in back in 2004, but is not supported by the reference later appended (Durham's). That book, searchable on Amazon, indicates only the name changes without an explanation.

If I can suggest some possibilities, with an eye toward local research of archives, it may be that either the Post Office/Postmaster General (who in my interpretation had sole final authority on these matters) had a duplicate name, or misread the name, or any of various possible rationales involving that bureaucracy; the name 'Haywood' was chosen to suggest a shady, attractive location for other settlers (which was often a factor in these sorts of decisions); or another entity, perhaps a railroad, may have had a naming conflict and that spilled over. It's also *just* possible at this point in time that spelling was still a little flexible. In any event, it was not for the reason stated, and there is no source backing that statement up, so it had no place in the article. --Dhartung | Talk 21:55, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your edit. when the Hayward Area Historical Society opens its new offices, i will go there to research the city, provide references for the history. of course, removing any unsourced material is always acceptable.i had left a lot of the history here as i had no way to confirm it, but i probably could have removed this as well: i guess it sounded so assertive, i thought it must be backed up somewhere.(user:Mercurywoodrose)99.101.138.144 (talk) 06:28, 29 September 2013 (UTC)

Climate zones[edit]

I removed some info on USDA and Sunset Magazine climate zones as unsourced, but i need to add a source on its mediterranean climate, which i found in another article on the bay area.

Hayward has a Mediterranean climate,is a USDA Z10A and Sunset z17, and contains microclimates, both of which are features of the greater Bay Area.

76.254.35.173 (talk) 15:38, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

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