Talk:Helgoland (Bruckner)

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At the moment I'm calling it a "piece", but I saw one site call it a cantata which seems quite a convenient designation. Opinions? Lethesl 12:21, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Edit: I'm also thinking about adding a fair use (under 30 second) sample of the piece to demonstrate the Wagnerian qualities mentioned in the article in a more direct way.
Edit 2: if the images are OTT, feel free to remove.

Here is a very rough draft for a future "Music" section:


The orchestra is comprised of 2 flutes, 2 oboes, 2 clarinets, 2 bassoons, 4 horns, 3 trumpets, 3 trombones, tuba, timpani, cymbal & strings.

The piece is full of strength and enthusiasm, and - even more than his other works - carries the mark of the influence of Wagner.[1] Due to its relatively obscure place in Bruckner's oeuvre, it is difficult to ascertain its precise quality - some find the text to exemplify the naivety of German Romanticism+++ None of Bruckners mature symphonies were commissioned which could lead to the accusation that Helgoland is a potboiler, but his Psalm 150 was also a commission, and this is considered to be one of his greatest choral works. The lack of exposure to the piece may mean that a concencus will not be reached soon, but what is clear is the quality of the orchestral and vocal writing in the piece, naive libretto or not.

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A lot of this is too close to original research to include, plus contains a weasel word. This piece is difficult to find citable sources simply due to a lack of writing on it, but rather than scrap this section, I'll leave it here in case anybody can improve/source it to be added later. Lethesl 09:40, 20 July 2007 (UTC)


The instrumentation given is typical of a Romantic-period orchestra (say, Beethoven's later symphonies) - I wouldn't call it 'large', certainly not for 1893. PhilUK (talk) 20:36, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

  1. ^ MusicWeb review for Barenboim's BPO Bruckner cycle