Talk:Henry II of France

Intro

"leaving his young sons on the throne under the influence of such dominant people as Mary Queen of Scots..."? Mary was just a teenager when Henri died. She was hardly "dominant," she certainly didn't control the French throne for the brief period that she was Queen Consort. I am removing that statement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.251.41.61 (talk) 01:05, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Early Life?

Can somebody write an Early Life/Childhood section for Henry II? It merely jumps right into his reign without explaining who his parents were, where he was born and raised, or the fact he was held hostage in Spain against his father for four years by Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor. Nor does it explain how, why and when he became king. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.164.123.215 (talk) 06:05, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Marriage and Issue

What does mean by 'issue' here? Please clarify which issues people had or did not had. Were those health problems or something else?

As far as I can see, 'issue' means children, in the context of this article. - Ballista 17:32, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

Nostradamus Prophecy

Isnt that what some people use to fuffill Nostradamus' Prophecy of Genghis Khan as well????Winn3317 02:15, 19 September 2006 (UTC) hi

The events surrounding his death are not as described in the article. The prophecy states that the young lion will overcome the old lion, and both contestants were about the same age. And neither henri nor his opponent used the lion as a symbol of their royal families. The helmet was neither gold nor gilded, and there was only one wound sustained, and it did not affect either of his eyes. My source on this is "Fidgeting fat, exploding meat & Gobbling Whirly birds" by dr Karl kruszelnicki (Harper Collins 1999), page 192.--Tiberius47 (talk) 11:10, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Added citation request

I just watched a documentary which seems to take as fact the idea that Nostradamus' supposed prediction of Henry's death made Nostradamus an international superstar. I'm curious the source for the statement that the connection wasn't made until well after Nostradamus' death.--24.21.254.55 08:00, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

You are right; go ahead and remove the information. The prophecy had already been made by Gauric, and Henry was aware of it; but Nostradamus latched onto it, and many at the time believed Nostradamus was somehow responsible for the king's death. qp10qp 16:48, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Henri II, supported by France and crowned by Fame tramples Heresy

I have added the necessary footnote reference to the 'Prophecy' section, but it doesn't seem to be working. Would somebody rather more technically competent than I am care to fix the problem? --PL (talk) 10:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Gee, thanks, Hemmingsen! --PL (talk) 15:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Court style

Anyone wanting to add a section on court patronage might use the engraving at right by Jean Duvet, c 1548, emblemmatic of allegorical court fêtes. (It might get lost at Commons.).--Wetman 04:00, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Ancestry

No 19 in the table of ancestors was linked to Marguerite of Brittany, daughter of Duke Francis I. However she was married to Francis II of Brittany, not Alain IX of Rohan, and had no children in any case. The Marguerite of Brittany who actually married Alain IX was a daughter of John V, Duke of Brittany (sometimes also numbered John IV, which is confusing; this is due to differing views of his father the original John IV's rights). There is no page for the correct Marguerite, so I just removed the link.

81.153.251.131 (talk) 11:17, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

There's another problem with the ancestry section - it lists his descendants rather than his ancestors!Levalley (talk) 22:41, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

His death did not lead to the decline of jousting

The accidental death of Henri II did not lead to the decline of jousting by any means. It remained popular long after his death. In England, for instance, the peak of the tournament was under the reign of Queen Elizabeth, with the Accession Day Tilt. This pageantry and elaborate jousting tournaments even continued to a lesser extend into the Jacobean era, thanks to the cult of personality of Henry Frederick, Prince of Wales, and even Charles I is noted as having participated in the tournament as a young man. In Germany, the aristocracy was still fanatically obsessed with tilting and continued to do it even as late as the 1930s, in Saxony. The Augsburg and Greenwich armouries reached their technical and artistic peak in the late 1500s, and decorated armours from around this time feature lance rests so obviously they were being used for jousting. Maybe Henri II's death caused a drop in jousting in France, but not elsewhere in Europe. Golden Hound (talk) 13:50, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

Pictures

The article was full of pictures, most of them didn't really added to the text, and the article suffered from some styling problems; so I moved some of the pictures to a gallery section, and spread through the article the ones that actually add relevant and enlightening information to it. If you disagree with this edit, please tell me which picture moved to the gallery you think does elaborate the article. Tomer T (talk) 14:00, 2 May 2011 (UTC)