Talk:Hessian (cloth)

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hi yo —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.227.25.97 (talk) 20:28, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Removed unnecessarily vulgar "burlap vagina" blurb. It doesn't appear as a real term on Google. TotoBaggins

Clarification about Jute, Burlap/Hessian, and Sackcloth[edit]

Jute is the most dominating bast fiber in the world. Therefore, most burlap/hessian/gunny & sackcloth can be found to be made of Jute. But, burlap & sackcloth can be made of other bast fibers also, like Hemp, Kenaf, flax etc.

Sackcloth is the material to make sackings or the cloth derived from sacks. Burlap/hessian/gunny (Fabric of Jute or Bast Fiber) is made for other purposes also. e.g. Shadecloth or Canvas/Tarpaulin, Nursery Blind, Trims (Webbing), etc. Therefore, Sackcloth is a type of Burlap and all sackcloths are burlap, but all burlap are not sackcloth.

- Asif Anwar

I have modified redirections for sackcloth (or sack cloth) to Cilice. When most people search the term, they are looking for the Bible-related meaning. --Algorithme (talk) 14:07, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

keep burlap as seperate page[edit]

I would not have known to search for sack cloth as that is not a term known in Canada!


I've heard of a "burlap sack" but I can't say the term sackcloth would bring me to think of Burlap, though that may be to lack of education - leaving it separate would allow us "uneducated" people to find the topic easier. -K. LeDrew

"with which to lash Mardi Gras participants"[edit]

Wha'? Can we have a source for that please?!? 86.132.139.224 03:38, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Serious edit?[edit]

This page is pretty awful in its quality. It almost feels like an Everything2 entry. Specifics: The "Other" category should probably be deleted as it doesn't really add much. Quoting random things that also are called "burlap" isn't very informative without further exposition. And the individual sentences at the top are disjoint and unorganized. I understand that the article is a stub, but it's a very low quality stub. SeanAhern 11:44, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

-- So why not do some work on it? Everybody does a little bit; that's how this wiki thing functions.kscally 11:00, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

naming[edit]

If Hessian is the more common name (The article states this and cites a reference) why is the page called Burlap? Burlap isn't in concise dictionaries in the UK and i've only ever seen it used by William Faulkner so I assume its an Americanism.The article currently at Hessian isn't about Hessian in any correct English sence.(Morcus (talk) 14:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC))

I'd like to propose moving this article to Hessian (fabric) for the reasons given above. The first line of the article cites a reference to the fact that Hessian is the more common name and that Burlap is an Americanism. Please Discuss.(Morcus (talk) 01:31, 23 August 2008 (UTC))

The best part of a week having passed without any reply I've been bold and moved it, I've also swapped Burlap and Hessian around in a couple of places.(Morcus (talk) 00:45, 29 August 2008 (UTC))

The more common name would be burlap, because it's an Americanism. American population > UK population. —ᚹᚩᛞᛖᚾᚻᛖᛚᛗ (ᚷᛖᛋᛈᚱᛖᚳ) 20:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

History[edit]

The historical background seems a bit suspect and anachronistic. The great age of the Hessian conscript mercenary was in the 18th century, so that seems a more likely time for the term to evolve than the 19th, when allegedly jute exports started. It's likely

either Hessian in the earlier period was not jute-based,
or the date for first exports is wrong,
or both.

Isn't it more likely that the British and French colonists started sending back jute in the 18th century or even earlier? It seems odd they fought over Bengal so hard unless they were exploiting its resources.Sjwells53 (talk) 10:28, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Besides, hessian is not a very suitable fabric for clothing. Except if you're a Roman Catholic, but Hesse was perhaps the first part of Germany that Reformed. However, it may be that burlap was used by the mercs if nothing else was available, e.g. by the Convention Army when they had no other supplies.
The original fibre was probably flax. The German term is Sackleinen, essentially meaning "duffel-bag linen". Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 17:00, 7 January 2011 (UTC)

Italian "burla"[edit]

burlap has burla in it which means joke or something funny considering burlap sack races, dresses, or slapstick