Talk:Hidalgo (state)

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Please expand![edit]

Could somebody please expand this article with more information about Hidalgo's demographics, history, economy, etc.? IP69 16:28, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move the page to Hidalgo (state), per the discussion below. Dekimasuよ! 02:34, 2 October 2008 (UTC)


Hidalgo (Mexico)Hidalgo (state) — If the state isn't to get primary usage (see comments on Talk:Chihuahua (Mexico)), Hidalgo (Mexico) is potentially ambiguous with the various cities in Mexico called Hidalgo (in Coahuila, NL, Tamps...). Hidalgo (state) is clearer and more useful, and, I believe, in line with naming conventions. — Aille (talk) 14:00, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

Survey[edit]

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
Georgia's a special case... U.S. state vs. Confederate state vs. independent state. A better, and more numerously populated, convention is given by Acre (state) and Salzburg (state), with Amazonas (Brazilian state) & Amazonas (Venezuelan state) when dabbing is needed.
The proposed disambiguator "(Mexico state)" also re-opens the quasi-eternal Mexico state, State of Mexico, Mexico State, etc. can of worms: is this Hidalgo (Mexico state) a town in the Estado de México? The more grammatically accurate Hidalgo (Mexican state) would be the way to go, were it necessary; fortunately, no other country has a state called Hidalgo, so it isn't. Aille (talk) 19:51, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
OK, there are some variations of state disambiguation. Better to use one that works in all cases. I would not oppose Hidalgo (Mexican state) if that is where consensus winds up. Also note the Victoria (Australia) was a recent rename effort for a state in a country. That is yet a third variation. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:38, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
Similar comment as above: do you not think there's a danger of that title getting parsed as "the city of Hidalgo in the state of Mexico? Aille (talk) 04:40, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
There's always Hidalgo (first level political and administrative subdivision of the United States of Mexico referred to as a "state") ? 70.55.203.112 (talk) 09:07, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
The town can be Hidalgo, Mexico, Mexico. 70.55.203.112 (talk) 09:14, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Fortunately, that was just a hypothetical: I don't think the EdoMex has a(n) Hidalgo -- they're probably sore at him for taking away such a large chunk of its territory to create his state. FWIW, convention seems to have settled on "Name, Mexico State" for towns and cities there, so should we find it does have a town called Hidalgo, the visually confusing but rhythmically pleasing Hidalgo, Mexico, Mexico, probably won't be necessary. Except as a redirect, maybe. Aille (talk) 14:27, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Discussion[edit]

Any additional comments:
  • No incoming links at the moment, but other similar pages (Chihuahua, Mexico; Veracruz, Mexico; etc.) do get linked to. Redirecting Hidalgo, Mexico, to Hidalgo would take care of any potential redlinks and get incoming traffic within striking distance of where it wants to be. Aille (talk) 14:27, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
  • RD created. Aille (talk) 17:07, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.