Whoever is reverting the list of styles, stop. I created the list and have added styles on as they have come to notice; all exist and are legitimate. I have no idea what you are on about. Yanksta x 13:48, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
- I have never heard of some of the more obscure styles ("Exalted Highness" for the Nizam is an exception). Could you share your sources for them, and especially for the translations and ranking you assign them? I have a difficult time understanding how "Your Princely Highness" can signal a higher style than "Your Grand Ducal Highness"? And I have always understood that some of the adjectives layered on top of or coupled with "Durchlaucht" are not translated literally into English, but are simply translated as "Serene Highness" since they do not suggest a higher style than that borne by monarchs (and their families) who use the unadorned Durchlaucht/Altesse Serenissime? I do, however, much appreciate the usually ignored fact you make clear that sytles may suggest rank, but do not define or carry it in and of themselves.Lethiere 02:02, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
- I would personally seperate the styles so that Eastern ones are seperate. The levels of "exaltation" are more clear among European styles than for European and Eastern combined. Charles 02:30, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
- I'll dig up some sources; the rank is based mostly on British protocol. For example, under the British Empire, Indian princes bearing the style of Highness ranked immediately below dukes, and those breaing the Sultanic Highness style of Egypt ranked immediately after those bearing the style of Royal Highness. What you seem to be confused about regarding Princel/Grand Ducal is the type of state involved. The princes of Germany were not princes in the royal sense, and used the title of "Durchlaucht" or Serenity. This is usually translated into English as HSH Prince, although there was never any prince in the royal sense or Highness involved. Exceptions to this rule included royalty who used that style, such as certain cadet members of the french royal family and male-line grandchildren of certain Italian monarchs. Princely Highness was a style used by certain monarchs colonialized by European powers. the ranking as assigned based on the wishes of the European power. Yanksta x 15:28, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
I understand that HH The Aga Khan was granted the style of His Highness by HM Queen Elisabeth II in 1957.
It was later upgraded to His Royal Highness by the Shah of Iran. Yanksta x 13:48, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
Use of Highness by British Royal Family
The article states "Before 1917, it was also used by some junior members of the British royal house." In fact it was used after that time, by Princess Marie Louise and Princess Helena.
It was also used by Princess Maud, Countess of Southesk.
Pincess Maud's sister, Princess Alexandra did not use it after she married HRH Prince Arthur of Connaught. And their son Prince Alastair of Connaught who was born HH lost the style in 1917.
Royal Highness vs Imperial Highness
It would appear that those using the style of imperial highness would outrank a royal highness. With this being the case would member of the Imperial House of Japan, outrank member of the british royal family i.e in theory would The Prince of Wales be expected to bow before The Crown Prince of Japan ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk • contribs)
- That is only the case within a singular system, such as the system within the Holy Roman Empire or in the German Empire. Between nations in the present day, the style of the heir does not grant a specific precedence. I *believe* precedence is calculated by the length of the monarch's reign, so his or her heir would outrank another heir based on that. Charles 02:10, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
The styles used officially in Norway are majestet (Majesty) and kongelig høyhet (Royal Highness) only. Styles such as høyhet (Highness) or eksellense (Excellence) do not exist. Junior members of the royal family, including the king's sisters, the crown prince's sister, or his younger children, do not hold any styles at all. Occasionally some of them may be referred to as "Highness" by foreigners merely by courtesy or assumption or pretence, but this style has no legal basis in Norway and they are not "official holders of the style Highness". Garn Svend (talk) 15:08, 30 April 2011 (UTC)