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Explanation of why did the dome survive[edit]

From the article it's unclear for general audience why wasn't the dome completely demolished while being directly below the explosion of an atomic bomb. That definitely needs an explanation in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.112.9.214 (talk) 22:02, 17 March 2009 (UTC)

Health Effects of Area[edit]

There are temporary side effects when visiting the Hiroshima Peace Park, people are often prone to coughing if they stay there for more then an hour (which is quite common, considering the museum and areas available for tourists). I personally noticed that myself as well as other tourists, and even the locals who were there - were experiencing a mild cough which I believe to be brought about by the residual effects of radiation that still exist there. Can anyone dig up something on this to be added, I'm pretty damn certain that this has been approached or covered. JayAlto (talk) 09:49, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

I am not aware of coughing being a low-dose symptom of radiation poisoning. Could this have been a psychosomatic reaction? Greenshed (talk) 22:50, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
That's a load of bollocks. There is no residual radiation left from the bomb at all. If there is coughing, it's because of emotions and dust (both of which exist in abundance there). ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WikiProject Japan! 04:25, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

American attempt to prevent this becoming a Heritage site?[edit]

Heard this about the World Heritage Committee and thought that if true it would definately be relevant for the article.

Do you have a reliable source? Fg2 21:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Just did it myself and cited the Unesco protocol statements as source.

Thanks. Fg2 00:02, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Prefectural Promotion Hall[edit]

It looks very similar to Hiroshima Prefectural Promotion Hall, the only building standing after the nuclear blast. Is this the same building or was it built specially?

They look identical. I believe that it served as a prefectural hall, and is now a memorial. --Menchi 22:12, 2 Nov 2003 (UTC)
In this case this should be mentioned on the Hiroshima Peace Memorial page. It is an interesting information. --Romanm 22:46, 2 Nov 2003 (UTC)
It is the same building. Aside from some general cleaning up of the site, the building has not been altered (physically) in any way to make it into a memorial. LordAmeth 22:47, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
They have added some structural stabilization beams to make sure it doesn't crumble or fall apart. Outside of that, though, there haven't been any changes to it. --00:09, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Image[edit]

Is there a reason that Image:GenbakuDome.jpeg was replaced by Image:Hiroshima-pref-prom-hall-04.jpg? I personaly prefered the old photo. --Romanm 20:36, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I replaced it with Image:Hiroshima-pref-prom-hall-04.jpg, as this features the entire building, as viewed from the Peace Park. Image:GenbakuDome.jpeg featured rather a lot of ground, and only a small amount of the building. In my opinion, this makes the former the more illustrative. - MykReeve 20:40, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Both are good. The nice sunny photo doesn't deserve to be removed any more than those crappy self-advertisement on VfD. Most readers would appreciate seeing this monument from different lighting and angles. Deletion is constructive in many cases, but in this case, retention is more informative and illustrative. --Menchi 23:07, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Fair enough. The main reason I deleted the other image was that the article really needs to be expanded for the layout to support several images. I've edited the layout so that the images line up. - MykReeve 01:03, 26 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Pre-blast picture?[edit]

Are there any photos of the building taken before the bombing?

Peter Isotalo 15:00, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

I found two photos on the web: http://www.city.hiroshima.jp/image/dome10.gif and http://library.thinkquest.org/20331/images/hpiphbefore.jpg bogdan | Talk 16:07, 6 August 2005 (UTC)

This isn't called the Hiroshima Peace Memorial[edit]

This page should be changed to the A-Bomb Dome.

Though the Japanese do call it 原爆ドーム, which is usually translated as "A-Bomb Dome", I get the distinct impression that in the English-speaking world, it is known as the Hiroshima Peace Memorial. At least half my books that mention it refer to it as such. Normally, I am definitely one to argue for the Japanese name as the "real" name, and to use it as the title of a page, but in this case, I'm afraid I disagree. LordAmeth 12:13, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
The A-Bomb Dome is located within the Hiroshima Peace Memorial Park (広島平和記念公園 Hiroshima Heiwa Kinen Kōen?), and it's likely that English-speaking people just merged the names a bit. If a change is made, I would suggest making an article called Hiroshima Peace Memorial Park (it currently redirects to this article) and including information regarding the A-Bomb Dome, the park in general, the Hiroshima Peace Memorial Museum (広島平和記念資料館 Hiroshima Heiwa Kinen Shiryōkan?), and the Atomic Bomb Victims' Memorial Moneument (原爆死没者慰霊碑 Genbaku Shibotsusha Ireihi?). --日本穣 Nihonjoe 21:47, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

I like the new article. (^_^) Now I think this one should be merged into it unless it can be expanded quite a bit. As it is, it's only as long as a couple standard paragraphs. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 00:14, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

The geographical coordinates link is wrong for both the Genbaki Dome and the Memorial Park by the way...and as the article is for the Memorial Park the link should be in the vicinity of the park itself, not for the Dome, I should think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.177.89.179 (talk) 09:12, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

The official Hiroshima tourism website specifies the A-Bomb Dome as separate (or a distinct part of) the Memorial Park. It would make sense to change the title of this article to A-Bomb Dome, especially since there is a separate page for the Hiroshima Memorial Park. 141.161.133.93 (talk) 19:37, 12 February 2013 (UTC)

A-Bomb?[edit]

"Hiroshima Peace Memorial, called Genbaku Dome (原爆ドーム), the Atomic Bomb Dome, or the A-Bomb Dome by the Japanese" I'm confused. A-Bomb is a shortening of Atomic Bomb, so wouldn't it just be called Atomic Bomb Dome by the Japanese? --OGoncho 09:21, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Not necessarily. Some people use "New York" and "NYC" pretty interchangeably - both terms are used; thus, the same here. Just because one is an abbeviation of the other doesn't mean that Japanese people can't call it by both names. LordAmeth 20:20, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
Genbaku means atomic bomb, though. I assumed the sentence was translating it. Do the Japanese use the English "Atomic Bomb Dome" and "A-Bomb Dome" interchangably with "Genbaku Dome"? --OGoncho 03:41, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
We could always change it to read "... called Genbaku Dome, Atomic Bomb Dome or A-Bomb dome" or something like that. I don't know if many (or any) Japanese would in fact call it the A-Bomb Dome, but whether it's a translation of "genbaku" or whether it's a common English usage name, all three versions belong in the introduction there somewhere, I think. LordAmeth 08:26, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
A-Bomb is informal, though. We're refering to a title of a building that isn't actually called by this informal name. We are providing a translation of the real name, not what English people may choose to call it. How about "Hiroshima Peace Memorial, called Atomic Bomb Dome (原爆ドーム Genbaku Dome?) by the Japanese"? --OGoncho 21:40, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

"Genbaku" is equivelent to "A-bomb" because "Genbaku" is a shortened word of "Genshi Bakudan". "Genshi" is atom or atomic. "Bakudan" is bomb. A Japanese living in USA for 14 years

Okay, then. I'm satisfied. --OGoncho 02:24, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

File:HiroshimaPeaceMemorialPanorama-2.jpg to appear as POTD soon[edit]

Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that File:HiroshimaPeaceMemorialPanorama-2.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on August 6, 2010. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2010-08-06. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page so Wikipedia doesn't look bad. :) Thanks! howcheng {chat} 19:01, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Picture of the day
Hiroshima Peace Memorial

A panoramic view of the Hiroshima Peace Memorial, the site of the first atomic bomb to be used in warfare on August 6, 1945, during the final stages of World War II. Over 70,000 people were killed immediately, and another 70,000 suffered fatal injuries from the radiation, after the U.S. Army Air Force bomber Enola Gay dropped the bomb, codenamed "Little Boy". The Genbaku ("A-bomb") Dome (center) was directly beneath the blast, but managed to survive mostly intact.

Photo credit: Dean S. Pemberton
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Attempt to remove File:Hiroshima Dome 1945.gif[edit]

I am completely baffled why File:Hiroshima Dome 1945.gif should be removed from this article. Such an iconic historical image showing the centrepiece of the Peace Memorial, taken shortly after the bomb exploded is quite possibly the most important image in the article. To propose it be speedily deleted (because it is "orphaned fair-use") is a ridiculous step to take. To suggest a free alternative (from 1945) is available is also ridiculous (unless someone has a time machine). As I understand it, access to the site was restricted to very few people at the time and Shigeo Hayashi was just one of two photographers specially invited by the authorities to join an academic survey team to take these historic photographs (see here). Astronaut (talk) 17:03, 14 August 2010 (UTC)

And why do we need a historical photograph? We have free images of the subject; to suggest we need to use a non-free one is laughable. J Milburn (talk) 13:18, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
File:GenbakuDome02.jpg may be free, but it is a modern-day image which includes a modern fencing, and modern building in the background, and does not show the devastation caused by the atomic bomb. The whole purpose of the peace memorial is to remember the people who were killed in the events of August 6, 1945 and to not include an historical photograph is ridiculous. I have added the image back into the article, this time not in the gallery and not in the lead section. Can it now remain? Astronaut (talk) 14:04, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Yes, it's a modern day photograph, but that doesn't mean it doesn't show the memorial. It's not clear what this image is actually adding to the article- if you want an image that shows the extent of the bombing, something like File:AtomicEffects-p7a.jpg alongside File:AtomicEffects-p7b.jpg would probably be your best bet... J Milburn (talk) 14:11, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
Unfortunately, both images are from above and neither shows the dome amid the devastation. Astronaut (talk) 14:30, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
And why is it so essential that it's shown? Isn't the whole point that it has been kept as it is? J Milburn (talk) 18:39, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

This is one of those "if you have to ask, you'll never understand why" questions. Of course we show a photograph of the dome taken in 1945 by one of the official Japanese photographers. By all means include a modern photograph as well. If this J Milburn character has to ask why we show a photograph of the dome taken in 1945 by one of the official Japanese photographers he will never understand. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 10:49, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

Oh, clearly, I could never be qualified to understand these things. I suppose I should go and kill myself now and get out of your way. J Milburn (talk) 11:42, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
And that response is why so many long-term Wikipedia editors, such as myself, have all but abandoned the project. 68.146.64.9 (talk) 06:46, 15 December 2010 (UTC)

Date Confusion[edit]

Sorry, possibly the wrong place to raise issue but some dates don't add up here. "Shinzo Hamai (1905 – 1968) sought funds for the preservation effort domestically and internationally. During one trip to Tokyo, Hamai resorted to collecting funds directly on the streets of the capital. Preservation work on the A-Bomb Dome was completed in 1967, a year after Hamai's death." Did Hamai die in 1966? or was preservation work completed in 1969? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.156.235 (talk) 01:31, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the reference for that confusing bit (http://rekishi.jkn21.com/) is either incorrect or has become a dead link. I've asked the person who added it for a new reference or some clarification. Astronaut (talk) 11:39, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
The sequence of dates were off, huge apologies! Please check the correction against the texts I used: "その後ドームの風化が進み、市議会は1966年にドームの保存を決議した。当時の市長浜井信三は工事費の全額を募金でまかなうこととし、市長自身も東京で街頭募金を行った。募金目標の4000万円に対し、全国から6600万円余が集まり、保存工事は67年に完成した。89年10月2回目の保存工事が開始され、翌年3月終了した。(ニッポニカ : 原爆ドーム)" -- "25年 (1950) 平和記念公園を建設,41年 (1966) 原爆ドームの永久保存運動をおこした。昭和43年 (1968) 2月26日死去。62歳。(日本人名大辞典 : 浜井信三)" Prburley (talk) 19:29, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
Actually, the URL is live, if you're at an institution that subscribes to JapanKnowledge. Prburley (talk) 19:29, 23 October 2012 (UTC)