Talk:Historical present

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on spoilers[edit]

the small semi-spoiler about The Handmaid's Tale would seem to be unacceptable here because: - this is not an article about the book - the spoiler has nothing to do with Historical Present — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.207.2.231 (talk) 11:50, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

perpetual present[edit]

Is the "historical present" the same as the "perpetual present tense" briefly mentioned in Wikipedia:Guide to writing better articles#Check your fiction? --68.0.124.33 (talk) 14:16, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

Not really. Something not currently mentioned in this article is that the historical present frequently expresses a completed action — something which the simple present tense in English generally can't do (because a completed action, by definition, either ended in the past or will end in the future). In effect, the historical present expresses an aorist or perfective verbal aspect without explicitly placing an action in any specific point in time. As soon as I can find some sources that say this, I'll update the article accordingly. Richwales (talk) 22:14, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

"Historical" or "Historic"?[edit]

The Third (1996) of edition of "Fowler's Modern English Usage" makes a clear distinction between the words "historic" and "historical" and calls the "use of the present tense instead of the past in vivid narration" as "historic past", not "historical past", see: Fowler, H. W. (1996) [1926], Burchfield, R.W., ed., The New Fowler's Modern English Usage (3 ed.), Oxford: Clarendon Press, p. 361, ISBN 0-19-869126-2 

Should the article therefore be called "Historic present" with a redirect from "Historical present"? --TedColes (talk) 08:04, 27 July 2014 (UTC)

The deciding factor should be current usage among linguists (WP:COMMONNAME)... -- AnonMoos (talk) 00:20, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

"Present Imperfect"[edit]

Is this the same, or considered to be, the same tense?Osborne 13:33, 11 August 2014 (UTC)