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This article is missing a section on everything from 1170-1700. Quite an omission! i'm going to write a section on this. Jdorney

i added the lockout section as well, but forgot to log in Jdorney

I've moved a lot of the architectural content to the new Development and Preservation in Dublin page. Some of the End of British Rule section has been moved to the history of the Republic of Ireland page. i've also added in a lot more historical detail on earlier periods. if people think the article is too long, or want o cut out some of the stuff that is here to insert more important stuff, thats fine. Maybe discuss it here first though. Likewise if anyone feels the old version should be reverted. Jdorney 21:59, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Dublin celebrated its millinenum in 1988. "Dublins Great in '88". Because in 988 the Danish king of Dublin accepted the High King in Tara as overlord. The 988 event, when Dublin became part of Ireland, should be mentioned --ClemMcGann 01:08, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Mention it then!!

If the problem is that the page can't fit any more text, then we could look at deleting something. Its occurred to me that there should also be a mention of Dublin's heroin epidemic in the '80s and 90s if we want to be truthful, but I don't think it will fit. Jdorney


Does anybody know why the northside around Parnell and Mountjoy squares became the most fashionable until the mid-eighteenth century? It seems strange that both Viking and Normans settled southside but at some time the fashionable place moved north. Anybody know when, why and how this change happened? Thanks

Destruction of Georgian Dublin[edit]

This section comes across as very biased against 60s-70s inner city development and demolishing og old houses. I don't necessarily disagree with that, but en encyclopedia article should be more neutral. Inserted POV tag. 93.160.119.14 (talk) 08:20, 16 June 2011 (UTC)

That section is pretty awful - needs a total re-write. Hohenloh + 10:04, 17 June 2011 (UTC)

The image of "Georgian house on St Stephen's Green" is actually a picture taken on Fitzwilliam Street near Merrion Square. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.141.8.199 (talk) 18:12, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

duplication[edit]

Hello, I accidentily duplicated some information on the Love Ulster march- put it in the northern section. Fluffy999 23:28, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

quality[edit]

I just read this whole article through, and it seems lacking a bit. I'm not in a position to fix it, not being a writer, but thought I'd comment on it. Parts seem to be stream-of-consciousness writing, especially the later parts. Random little facts appear tacked on to the ends of paragraphs, the narrative flow is very jumpy. The IRA appear without introduction as if from a vacuum. I imagine it's hard to write a history of Dublin without turning it into a history of Ireland, but still... The (short) civil war section is decidedly anti-IRA. And the section on the destruction of Georgian buildings is decidedly anti-development. Neither express an NPOV in my reading. Just a few thoughts. Hope I haven't offended anyone! Miken32 16:24, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Traitors' Gate[edit]

Anybody know where this is? According to Manus O Riordan of SIPTU in a radio discussion about Irish involvement in the British concentration camps this is the name which was given to the arch on Stephen's Green (which commemorates those who died fighting for the British Empire against the Boers) by, of all people, the Redmondites. 193.1.172.138 22:41, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Yeah its the arch that faces the corner of grafton street, at the entrance to Stephen's Green. If you look carefully at it you'llsee the naems of battles in the Boer War, Talana, Colenso, etc and the names of the Irish soldiers who died there in the British Army. Nationalist minded people sometimes, call it Traitors Gate alright, my Dad told me this name for it when I was a kid, but I doubt that most people now take much interst in its origin. Jdorney 09:13, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

There's also a Traitor's Gate at the back of Dublin Castle. It's at the back of a courtyard, and informers could sneak in there to inform and get their payment (King George's Cavalry, it was called, ie, sovereigns)Hohenloh (talk) 04:17, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

The site of the arch was for a statue of Wolfe Tone and the foundation stone was laid in 1898, all approved by the corporation. Then the money ran out, and the corporation built the arch instead for Dubliners that died in that war.86.42.209.22 (talk) 22:29, 6 September 2008 (UTC)

Foundation period and slavery[edit]

I've removed the assertion that: "This [slavery] nominally ended with the adoption of the Brehon Laws, but actually continued for a further century." The Brehon laws had been around for centuries and so had slavery. How do we know that the Vikings observed the B Laws? The B laws allowed for 3 currencies - cattle, silver and slave girls. See Brehon laws#Lay grades.Red Hurley (talk) 13:24, 28 October 2008 (UTC)

Trade[edit]

The article says little about Dublin's trade, as Ireland's busiest port until the 1800s. Traders sat on the City Council, which again there is nothing about, though it ran the city for centuries. The northside slums were not slums in the 1700s. Very few footnotes!86.46.230.28 (talk) 07:16, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Black Pool, specifically[edit]

I tried to add a page of information about the Black Pool that Dublin is literally named after, but it was tagged for speedy deletion because it apparently overlapped to much with this page and the Dublin one, so it no longer exists. Any suggestions? Or should I just add more to the information here? BadgerRugger (User talk:BadgerRugger) 9:15, 22 November 2011

Had a look at your workpage. Not sure there is a whole lot there that hasn't been covered at Dublin#History. Mention of Dubh Linn is lacking at this article. Perhaps some info could be incorporated, but there are multiple issues with your article as is, so please bear that in mind if adding text here. RashersTierney (talk) 15:40, 22 November 2011 (UTC)