Talk:History of alien abduction claims

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Icke section[edit]

This is an article on the history of alien abduction, and as far as I can tell the section on David Icke's theories has nothing to do with that history. It provides an explanation for the phenomenon, which is not the subject of this article (that's why the article lists no alternate hypotheses). I am removing it. Troodon311 (talk) 14:44, 1 May 2011 (UTC)

And I've reverted. Icke is one of the big names in UFO abduction circles, famous for his claims about "lizard men" who abduct individuals. His claims are a big part of the UFO abduction phenomenon. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 12:19, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
You did not address my point. If you want to make a section describing the history of alien abduction theories then that fits with the article, and David Icke can certainly be included in that section. As of right now his theory is the only one expressed in an article that is not devoted to alien abduction theories. Troodon311 (talk) 22:46, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
... this is an article about alien abduction claims, specifically the history of them. I don't know what your point is if you're claiming he doesn't belong in this article. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 22:53, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Judging by your tone I'm speaking to a child, so I'll just say this and leave this article to you as your private sandbox. The article has 6 bolded sections in it.
Sections 1-3 are about specific alien abductions claims that are considered by some to be noteworthy in the history of the phenomenon. Sections 4 and 5 deal with specific researchers who have looked at alien abduction claims and what their opinions are.
Then we get to Section 6 and it is 100% about David Icke's theories. With the exception of a single sentence in Section 4 it is the only part of the article that expresses a theory explaining alien abduction. So Hopkins, Jacobs, and Icke are the only people of note who have formulated theories to explain alien abductions, and Icke's is so much more noteworthy/complicated than Hopkins and Jacobs' that it warrants its own section and 10.5 times as many words? Also the section makes no mention as to how Icke came to these conclusions, when both of the previous sections dealing with abduction researchers mentioned something about their method of research.
There is a way to make Icke and his theories a reasonable part of this article. That involves adding a section on the history of theories explaining alien abduction and placing his theories into that subcategory. Have fun ignoring every word that I just said ;-) Troodon311 (talk) 23:27, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
Since you've resorted to insults, I will. If you had simply explained your concerns in the first place, rather than "the section on David Icke's theories has nothing to do with that history" it would've helped. Oh, and for Icke's "methods," check the article on the man himself. He didn't research, it's all his personal belief. — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 12:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

suggest move from History of alien abduction claims to History of alien abduction[edit]

The title can be 1 word shorter, the main article is Alien abduction.

84.106.11.117 (talk) 02:53, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Nope, there is no history of alien abduction, only of claims of alien abduction. Dougweller (talk) 09:58, 8 July 2014 (UTC)