Talk:History of the Opera web browser
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- 1 Alert
- 2 Only currently maintained browser for Windows 95 and 98?
- 3 Windows Me
- 4 Acid2
- 5 About Opera 11
- 6 Release compatibility
- 7 Windows 2000 compatibility with Opera 11.x.
- 8 A List of Opera Releases.
- 9 Opera 11.50 no longer compatible with Mac OS Tiger.
- 10 Satiated curiosity
- 11 Screen shots are ridiculous
- 12 Opera 10.60 the last good version
- 13 Tabs
- 14 Page no longer updated.
Only currently maintained browser for Windows 95 and 98?
- Firefox abandoned support for Windows 95 May 30, 2007.
- Firefox 22.214.171.124 is the final version supported on Windows 95.
- 126.96.36.199 - May 30, 2007 - Stability improvements and security fixes. End-of-life of 1.5.0.x product line.
- Firefox abandoned support for Windows 98 December 18, 2008.
- Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.x is the final version supported on Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 98.
- 188.8.131.52 - December 18, 2008 - Single security fix. End-of-life of 2.0.0.x product line.
As of 14feb10, Opera 10.10 for Windows no longer officially supports Win9x:
"Minimum configuration for Opera:
- Windows 2000 on a Pentium II
- 128 MB of RAM
- 20 MB of free disk space
Although Opera may run on older hardware and older versions of Windows, it will be less usable. If you are using such hardware or software, you may be better off installing a legacy version of Opera."
Older versions of Opera are briefly discussed at http://www.opera.com/support/kb/view/601/ and made available at http://arc.opera.com/pub/opera/ but with no guidance about which versions to use with which versions of Windows.
Old versions are also available at http://www.oldapps.com/opera.php but again without accurate guidance about which versions work well with which versions of Windows -- they incorrectly state that Opera 10.10 works with Windows 98. It may in fact work, but is no longer officially supported.
When did Opera drop official support for Win98? What is the last version that officially worked with Win98? What is the best version of Opera to use with Win98SE?
- While support for Windows 98/Me was officially dropped in 10.10, users had to use the Classic Installer which worked throughout the Opera 10.x release. While Windows 95 support was dropped completely in Opera 10.5, support for Windows 98 and Windows Me were completely dropped in Opera 11.
- Windows 98 and Me users who attempt to install and run Opera 11 will receive a error message that it requires a newer version of Windows and that they needed to upgrade their current version.
- Windows 98 and Me users *can* somehow get around this restriction by installing KernelEx 4.5 which will allow users to run Opera 11. However, this is not supported by Opera. 184.108.40.206 (talk) 19:25, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
While final 10.10 non-alpha Peregrine/Futhark shows correctly text cursor in Windows Me, initial Evenes/Carakan 10.50 non-alpha and all later subsequent versions doesn't show text cursor in Windows Me at all. 220.127.116.11 (talk) 06:55, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
“Version 9.0 was the first Microsoft Windows, GNU/Linux, and BSD browser to pass the Acid2 test.”
Does that mean that it is the first to both pass the Acid2 test AND to run on Microsoft Windows, GNU/Linux and BSD? Because Konqueror passed the test before Opera did, although it did not run on Windows officially yet.
About Opera 11
This article doesn't mention Opera 11 at all (Opera (web browser), Internet Explorer versions and History of Mozilla Firefox mention latest alpha and beta releases, though)......--RekishiEJ (talk) 07:33, 4 December 2010 (UTC)
Added version 11 for the newest operating systems. The whole Release compatibility section should however be cleaned up. How's the compatibility for the older browsers? The GNU/Linux downloads have been separated into three downloads. Some of the older download links does not point to the right versions. Wirrad (talk) 09:30, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
Windows 2000 compatibility with Opera 11.x.
Currently, the latest version of Opera (Opera 11.01) still works for .26% of all users who are still on Windows 2000.
I checked the system requirements page on their site that Windows 2000 on a Pentium II with 128 MB of memory is the minimum and Windows XP is the recommended minimum requirements.
I checked this page and found that Windows 2000 compatibility was removed in Opera 10.10 which is not true, however support for Windows 98 and Windows Millennium Edition was officially dropped.
Has anyone gotten any ideas on whatever the system requirements will be raised further in Opera 11.10 or Opera 11.50? Because, it's too early to tell whatever someone has jumped to the conclusion that Opera already dropped Win2K support or Win2K will still be supported, but with reduced functionality.
Also, Firefox 4 will still work with Windows 2000, but with reduced functionality.
From what I can tell, Opera and the Mozilla Foundation are often one of the *very last vendors* to continue supporting an older version of Windows longer than any other OS and by the time this becomes a concern, Microsoft may have already stopped supporting it.
A List of Opera Releases.
I think it would be much more useful if the History of the Opera web browser webpage has an actual table of detailed info on each release of Opera, like the one in the History of Mozilla Firefox web browser. Here is the webpage: http://www.opera.com/docs/history/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jhgenius01 (talk • contribs) 10:13, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
- By the way, does internal mean it was not public? As far as I've read Esperanto is not supported... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 10:45, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
Opera 11.50 no longer compatible with Mac OS Tiger.
I had to update the article to confirm that Opera 11.50 has permanently dropped support for Mac OS X 10.4 (Tiger). The change comes more than six months after Opera discontinued support for the PowerPC architecture on Mac and Linux due to low marketshare (< .1%) and fading third-party vendor support.
Users who attempted to install Opera 11.50 on Mac OS Tiger will receive the error message, "You cannot use the application 'Opera' with this version of Mac OS X." as one user reported it in the Opera forums.
Tiger support was going to be dropped when marketshare usage fell below 4.75% of Mac users, but it was only dropped for good when serious bugs that weren't fixable crept up.
On 16 August 2011, Mozilla is expected to abandon support for Mac OS Tiger, PowerPC processors and processors without SSE2 instructions as the open-sourced foundation is expected to release one more security and stability update for 3.6 series, Firefox 3.6.19 as it will be EOL.
Screen shots are ridiculous
The screen shots of Opera are terrible. Not only are they bad presentations of Opera, but they are untrue. Take the latest version on this article, 7.0 or so, the screen shot does not present what Opera looks like, It makes Opera look cheap and old fashioned. Also, in Opera, there is never a banner which reads, "buy now". Opera has always been free. 22.214.171.124 (talk) 17:00, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
Opera 10.60 the last good version
I still use Opera 10.60. I have tried later versions and found them unsatisfactory.
•Newer versions cannot display multi- page articles.
•Newer versions cannot tolerate multiple instances of Opera running simultaneously.
•Newer versions always try to update on start. This feature cannot be turned off (there is a setting to turn it off, but it does not work).
Opera developers have come under the negative influence of inferior browsers such as Chrome and Firefox. Opera has been essentially ruined --- at least, judging by the most recent versions I have tried. ---Dagme (talk) 16:23, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
I now use Opera 12.17. The GUI can be made like that of 10.60 and it does not force auto update. Presumably it is more secure and has updated capabilities. ---Dagme (talk) 14:50, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
Can someone knowledgeable add to the article information about when tab support was introduced to the browser? I think the support for tabs was included very early on. 126.96.36.199 (talk) 19:15, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
- http://www.opera.com/docs/history/presto/#o40 - claims tabs came with 4.0 on 2000-06-28. I think it's something to mention casually, as Opera certainly was not the first to do it; see also Tab (GUI)#History. Opera Show also arrived with Opera 4.0, and also deserves a mention. —WOFall (talk) 19:01, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
Page no longer updated.
The most current version for Windows and Mac is 24, but the describtion in the article stops at version 19. Can someone please update this page? Here is the changelog. --188.8.131.52 (talk) 22:14, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
- We are lazy, and new versions come very often – and actually there's very little to say about them. Maybe we should consider consolidating the last few sections into "Version 16 and onwards" or something? On the other hand, History of Firefox, for instance, seems to manage well enough. That article also has a very nice sister article "Firefox release history", but I certainly doubt anyone has the patience to create a similar table for Opera.
- I guess someone will feel like updating the article eventually, but in the meantime you are invited to add the missing sections yourself. —WOFall (talk) 14:19, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
- I'm the same guy again with a slightly different IP. Google Chrome also has a nice table of all the releases and their changes, but I'm afraid that I don't have enough time and nor am I knowledgeable enough of Wikipedia's mark-up language to create and maintain such a huge table.
- But I do like your idea of creating a section of "Version 16 and onwards". The versions 16 to 19 are already there so I'm too lazy to rewrite that. I think a new "Version 20 and onwards" section would be a good solution, since, as you said, the changelog for each version is very short, so you would only need 1-2 sentences each release. --184.108.40.206 (talk) 20:59, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- I went ahead and added the missing versions. I hope it's OK and my English wasn't too bad. Using the same pattern, new releases in the future can be described very quickly.
- Although I'll try to remember to check this page out whenever my Opera on my laptop updates, I cannot make any promises. So, it would be nice if you or other people could also update this page whenever a new Opera is released. --220.127.116.11 (talk) 21:58, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
- Cool, thanks. It was definitely quite acceptable English, though I did some copy-editing with the aim of keeping the tense consistent. I make no promises about updating on new releases (laaaazy), but it's certainly a lower barrier to edit now that it's caught up. We'll see what happens ;) —WOFall (talk) 23:53, 26 September 2014 (UTC)