Talk:Hitler's War

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Controversy[edit]

The article says the book is controversial, but doesn't say why. A summary of the controversy for those of us unfamiliar with it would be helpful. --Delirium 05:51, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree. Just saying it's controversial is WP:Peacock wording.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 18:22, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Have not read, but I think it denies that the Holocaust took place. Drutt 11:24, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

I thought it said that the Holocaust happened, but that Hitler knew very little or nothing about it and certainly did not order it Franny-K 19:17, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

This artcle features a list of 'references' however none of these are referred to. Perhaps introduce a section titled: 'critcism of the book' and then use the references to highlight areas where criticism can be levelled. Wiwkipedia requires a neutral point of view presenting facts. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiehnm (talkcontribs) 07:47, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Why the controversy over Hitler's War[edit]

No, the first edition of Hitler's War in 1977 does not deny the Holocaust (through Irving in fact has denied the Holocaust, but that came later in the 1980s-1990s). The first edition of Hitler's War says that the Holocaust took place, but that Hitler did not know about it, at least not until 1943. The second edition, which was published in 1991, again does not deny the Holocaust, but plays down the genocide of the Jews in a number of small ways. For example, the second edition refuses to refer to death camps as death camps (which the first edition did). In a more general sense, Hitler's War is a controversial book because not only the book describe World War Two from the vanpoint of Hitler, but also goes to considerable lenghts to present Hitler in the best possible light.--A.S. Brown (talk) 06:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

David Irving has never denied that Jews and other peoples were victimized by Hitler's Germany. The "Holocaust" he feels, however, is a money-making propaganda machine, the crux of which is the gas chamber legend that has been proven through forensic testing to be a total fabrication.

in this book, there is no mention of the holocaust because the book is written using only information found on original documents. there is not one document in existence that links Hitler to the gassing of even one human being let along 6,000,000. Notonekilled (talk) 13:04, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

That's actually completely untrue, and you're clearly no scholar of the period. There's myriad evidence of Hitler's involvement. There's the Hossbach Memorandum of 1937, and his January 1939 speech which he later backdated to September 1, 1939, there's also his correspondence with Himmler, who tasked Heydrich with organizing the "Final Solution," and then there's the documents generated at the Wannsee Conference. There's also the statements made to Albert Speer and Traudl Junge in the Führerbunker, both of whom document his feeling that "at least he can be proud of ridding Germany of the Jews." I suspect you have a rather antisemetic axe to grind, for your erroneous opinion flies in the face of academic consensus.Yezterdae (talk) 19:18, 10 December 2009 (UTC)

there is also no mention of the holocaust in Winston Churchill's six volume book "The Second World War". Notonekilled (talk) 13:07, 18 October 2009 (UTC)

Attitudes changed between the 1950s and 1970s. There is much more interest in the Holocaust nowadays. Drutt (talk) 14:19, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
Looking at the "Reactions and criticism" section, it's mostly quoting historians about the Holocaust and not about the larger operations of the war. The 2002 edition is not flattering about Hitler - he is described as the gambler that he was - and there are mistakes such as Irving's complete misunderstanding of Franco's change of position to Non-belligerent in mid-war. In the background, academic historians always dislike the amateur who produces a best-seller, but that's human nature.86.42.217.68 (talk) 16:17, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

David Irving article[edit]

Much of the information in the David Irving article relates directly to the book Hitler's War that he wrote. This material might deserve to be included in this entry instead of being crowded in a biographical page about the writer-historian Irving. ADM (talk) 02:41, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

TV Series[edit]

I understand a TV documentary series was produced based on this book? I think it was sometime in the 1990s. Drutt (talk) 08:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

1991 Castle Communications. More info here. I clearly remember Irving getting a name credit. Drutt (talk) 14:43, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

Broken reference[edit]

The hyperlinked "Craig 1982" reference leads to nowhere. Perhaps who ever added the Craig reference could fix it.--Britannicus (talk) 20:26, 21 November 2013 (UTC)