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Exports[edit]

It is my understanding that the Caprice, not the Statesman is the model used for all overseas exports. As the Caprice is a stand alone model, it is my belief that this article should be re-written to reflect this and the references moved to the Caprice Page. --Simmons001 11:03, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

Both the Caprice and Statesman are exported, and their sales numbers mirror closely those seen in Australia. THe Carpice is no more a stand alone model than the Calias is to the Commodore. In fact, the argument exists to merge the two together, and have a seperate heading under the statesman page to outline the Caprice. Decromin 14:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Having come back to this page after some absence, i must disagree. A Calais is no more a Commodore, than a Falcon is. It is a Calais. It may have the same body as the Commodore, but has unique trim, badging etc and is called a Holden Calais, not a Holden Commodore Calais. The Caprice and Statesman, again whilst sharing the same body type, are unique models as per docs/brochures etc in the Holden line up. Opinions all? Simmons001 (talk) 07:46, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it is a operate model, but due to the similarities there is no need for a separate article. OSX (talkcontributions) 09:27, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Daewoo Statesman now redirects here.[edit]

I just changed the Daewoo Statesman article to redirect here. The original content of that article is included below just in case there is any information there that can usefully be placed into this article.

Original content:

The Daewoo Statesman is a full-size luxury automobile built by Holden Ltd., General Motors' Australian subsidiary, in Elizabeth, South Australia. It is a modified version of the Holden Statesman, and has been marketed in South Korea by GM Daewoo since the summer of 2005. It is the largest rear-wheel drive sedan offered by General Motors.

The GM Daewoo Statesman was launched in 2005 initially with a new 3.6L V6 Alloytec engine, with the 2.8L to follow. Manufacturing began in 2005, with the same engines, sold through the GM Daewoo network as the Daewoo Statesman.

==See also==

==External links==

{{GM Daewoo timeline}} {{Modern-auto-stub}}

SteveBaker 14:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Photo on Holden Statesman page is a Statesman Caprice[edit]

The photo on the Holden Statesman page shows a WB Statesman Caprice, which was not marketed as a Holden. The inclusion of the photo on this page only serves to muddy the waters between the Holden Statesman (VQ onwards) and the Statesman (HQ to WB). I feel that it should be removed. GTHO 09:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

I just like to say that the vs caprice pic is of my car. sweet :)I sold it in 2004 for a VY SS Ute, then sold that for another VS Caprice. Yay! Simmons001 (talk) 10:54, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

Series Wrong[edit]

There doesn't seem to be any mention of the earlier series of cars sold by Holden called Caprice and Statesman, based on the Kingswood initially, and then a custom platform until 1983. Theducks 01:38, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

There is a mention of these models. If you read past the first few sentences, you would see that the article states that prior to the VQ model, the Holden Statesman was produced under the Statesman marque. OSX (talkcontributions) 04:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
I don't understand why they're separated, a WB is a Holden Statesman. Why two articles?--Jeff79 (talk) 12:10, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
Because the WB and before models are not Holdens (they were manufactured and designed by GMH though). OSX (talkcontributions) 22:21, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
If there truly is a reason for the split then it needs to be further clarified or the confusion will continue.--Jeff79 (talk) 15:35, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
I have re-mentioned the 1984 WB dismissal under VQ. Besides this, what more can you add? Already we have the italicised disclaimer at the top, the mention in the lead and in the infobox "Predecessor" field. OSX (talkcontributions) 02:39, 4 February 2009 (UTC)

Intro[edit]

Ive added the word "commonly" to Caprices are commonly powered by V8 engines rather than V6s, as the V6 was optional in all Caprice models, the V8 however was the usual and standard engine Simmons001 (talk) 10:59, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

I have edited this statement as its confusing. "Caprices are commonly powered by V8 engines rather than V6s, and are fully specified version of their Statesman siblings." IMHO and as per Holden docs/brochures the Caprice and Statesman are two different models in this era and this statement insinuates that you can option or specify a Statesman to Caprice levels of trim and equipment, which simply isn't the case, i.e. you can't specify the wood trim in the Statesman, nor the 12 speaker stereo, rear seat stereo controls etc etc. Secondly, Caprice's did have options. i.e in the VS S1 there were three. LSD, Sunroof, 185kW Engine Upgrade. Hopefully I've made this a bit clearer. Simmons001 (talk) 07:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

Requested move[edit]

Motorcade!! and overseas police agencies[edit]

Should info about the Holden Caprice being the car of choice for the PM's motorcade be included and the fact that it is starting to be used as police cars in mid east and NA

http://www.caradvice.com.au/27616/over-25-of-government-car-fleet-foreign-made/

http://www.carsales.com.au/news/2010/large-passenger/chevrolet/caprice/ford-and-holden-to-brawl-it-out-with-us-cop-cars-18677--Gargabookofayr (talk) 08:39, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

Yes, feel free to add it. OSX (talkcontributions) 11:40, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Some current generation models ordered but unsold to American police departments have been sold at auction on eBay, complete with all the wiring hookups for police radios and other equipment, extra police package interior and trunk lighting plus other special equipment. Just add police electronics, drill holes for a spotlight and light bar, apply police decals and it's a police car. Bizzybody (talk) 10:45, 8 July 2012 (UTC)