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Contents 1 Moist Sausage 2 Grammar 3 Advertisement for Nathan's 4 re: advertisement 5 Contents 6 Halal 7 misspelling

[edit] Moist Sausage

'Moist sausage' is an inappropriate way to describe a hot dog. It makes me want to vomit, not eat hot dogs. Also I am afraid that the bun is integral to the hot dog item otherwise you just have a single Frankfurt sausage flopping around. A hot dog is not 'often placed' in a bun, a hot dog unit is comprised of a sausage in a bun. This is not my opinion, this is fact.

Unless someone would like to argue this, I will change these wordings on the 20th of December.

[edit] Grammar

"More blander needs to be changed to "more bland"

[edit] Advertisement for Nathan's

Just wondering - why does a certain manufacturer of sausages and similar stuff have to be mentioned who doesn't have anything to do with the invention / original production of the franks or wieners, but seems to simply sell them a lot nowadays, though certainly not without the competition, whereas his competitors are not mentioned at all?

[edit] re: advertisement

it is widely believed that the success of Feltman's and Nathan's (opened led to the popularity of hot dogs in America, at least on the east coast, with Vienna Sausage in Chicago being introduced at the world's fair in 1893. In many parts of the country hot dogs were / are known as Coneys.

There is simply more information available about Nathan's than its competitors because they are no longer around. The old idea that "whoever wins the wars writes the history books" applies to hot dogs as well.

http://history.amusement-parks.com/nathans.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.117.3.106 (talk) 00:54, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Contents

I think some mention should be made of the widely-repeated idea that hotdogs are made of mysterious and/or disgusting things, likely dating back to the days when factories and their products were largely unregulated, and anything made of ground meat could be just about anything... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 01:15, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Someone less lazy than me, get a-writin'! Bartholomewklick (talk) 21:24, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

re- above: this is mostly an urban legend, at least today. hot dogs contain no more or less "disgusting things" than any other food product made of ground or processed meat. Many hot dog manufacturers today use high quality meat, probably better ingredients than most fast food franchises. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.117.3.106 (talk) 00:58, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

I think some mention should be made of the fact that frankfurters are properly an emulsion of fat and meat. This is one of the key distinctions between a hot dog/frankfurter and other sausages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.234.153.96 (talk) 01:34, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

See Bruce Aidells' Complete Sausage Book, page 66. It states "the hot dog is an emulsified sausage". Jdskeilson (talk) 18:02, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Another pronounciation of hot dog is weinie —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.50.166.90 (talk) 23:53, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

As I mentioned previously (and edited accordingly) authorities on the hot dog state that the contents are an emulsion. Why was this reverted? Why is an uncited, inaccurate description being used instead of an expert's published material?Jdskeilson (talk) 17:22, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Is a hot dog considered a sandwich? What differentiates it from a sausage sandwich enough that a hot dog isn't considered a sandwich? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.19.117.43 (talk) 21:57, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Halal

It metions Kosher hot dogs in the paragraph as being from meats other than Pork, but the globally much more common Halal versions are not mentioned/discussed, as there are by far more Muslims - including in the West. That intro section is locked, so I wasn't able to edit. Pink Princess (talk) 03:13, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Editor Scythian1 made the change, adding Halal to intro para. Seems ok. Presuming, of course, that there really are a substantial number of Muslims who would recognize the term "hot dog" for something they themselves eat? It doesn't ring out as being a particularly Muslim food -- by this name, at least. Piano non troppo (talk) 05:10, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't matter if hot dogs aren't "particularly Muslim". What matters is the fact that some hot dogs are made to be suitable for consumption by Muslims. It doesn't ring out as a "particularly Jewish" food either, but you can't deny that there are kosher 'dogs out there. 121.72.192.11 (talk) 09:36, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

The idea is to emphasize what about a topic is central. When I think Tabbouleh, I think "Arab". When I make it, I rely on Arab sources. Equally, but oppositely, when making sushi, my first thought isn't to look at Australian aborigine recipes. There are Arab markets in my area, and I occasionally shop in them. I don't remember seeing hot dogs, but I'll have another look. Regards, Piano non troppo (talk) 23:51, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] misspelling

The article spells "taking" "talking" in the history section (search for white gloves). I'd correct, but I'm not established, etc.

Fixed. VMS Mosaic (talk) 00:55, 8 September 2009 (UTC)