Talk:House of Braganza-Saxe-Coburg and Gotha

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Tasso of Saxe-Coburg and Braganza[edit]

Princess Theresa Christine of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha and her descendants, the Tasso of Saxe-Coburg and Braganza family, are not from this same house. They were descended from the marriage of Prince Ludwig August of Saxe-Coburg-Kohary, the nephew of Ferdinand II of Portugal, and Princess Leopoldina of Brazil. --Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 14:51, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Requested Move[edit]

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: not moved. Favonian (talk) 20:32, 29 January 2012 (UTC)


House of Braganza-Saxe-Coburg and GothaBranch of Braganza-Saxe-Coburg and Gotha – While Portuguese sources most certainly do not consider Braganza-Saxe-Coburg and Gotha a royal house of Portugal, it is considered a branch of the House of Braganza. I think that the article would be more accurate should it be titled as branch and not house. Thank you, Cristiano Tomás (talk) 20:13, 22 January 2012 (UTC)

  • Oppose, but would support House of Braganza-Coburg, which is actually (and fairly commonly attested in English, unlike the other two. I see a source for the present title; is there one for the nominator's form? (In English, please; if the Portuguese heralds make a nice play on words by calling this House a "branch", that belongs in the article - not at its head. That's one of the things we have interwiki links for.) JCScaliger (talk) 01:21, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose -- Elsewhere royal houses are those descended from a male progenitor. When the crown passes through a woman, the next heir (usually her son) will from his fatgher's ancestry create a new house. I am not familiar with the usage of English-language historians, but if a form that is less of a mouthful can be found, I would not oppose a change to that. Peterkingiron (talk) 23:06, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Oppose -- The traditional manner of viewing the situation is that the House of Braganza-Saxe-Coburg and Gotha is a branch of the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha or Wettin family not a branch of the Braganza family to which it was the successor family. Closely related but not a subset.--CSvBibra (talk) 00:24, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.