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2003[edit]

I'm confused, how's a link to a book (without mentioning anything about it) that seems to be just a piece of fundie propaganda more relevant than a link to the Wikipedia article on marriage? -- Timo Honkasalo 20:26 Feb 21, 2003 (UTC)

I added a link to marriage

I resent anyone using biggoted terminology to describe people of the Christian faith as "fundies". I stay at home, I love raising my kids and being there for my family. There are many out there who do...get over it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.30.26.130 (talk) 18:57, 9 September 2010 (UTC)


Sorry for making this page somewhat uglier, but I was somewhat uncomfortable with some of the phrasing - boys now learn home economics and the like, and the idea of a life as a homemaker is a little old-fashioned: today it's more likely to be a few years. Martin


The rise in unemployment in the western world has led to a rise in the number of men without permanent employment who choose to carry out this role, often because their wives/female partners have greater earning power than they do.

Please indentify source for claiming there is a trend of men choosing homemaking roles due to being unemployed. Since unemployment has been falling over the past century, you might look for another cause and effect relationship.

Nod. Was just copying text from househusband :) Martin

I removed the apron link, the person who put it there obvioulsy has little experience about household chores if he thinks apron is central to domestic hygiene. I also removed the wall of 1.03 million yen and 1.30 million yen link as the article is rather peculiar stub, and google doesn't produce anything about the subject. I'm also going to remove the link to the book, unless someone can give a good reason why it should be there. --- Timo Honkasalo

If you search google in Japanese, you can get plenty of information about 103万円・130万円の壁. I know the title of that article looks odd but it is a real thing in Japan. -- Taku 19:12 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)

To my disgrace, my knowledge of Japanese is restricted to the about 30 words I've learned in my Kendo practice. But since you seem already to have some knowledge on the subject, why not flesh out the article a bit. Right now, it tells practically nothing. --- Timo Honkasalo 14:52 Feb 23, 2003 (UTC)
Yes, I should put more definitelly. Please just give me more time. I am doing research now. Wrong information is worse then absense of information. -- Taku 16:19 Feb 23, 2003 (UTC)
question is, what do English-speaking reporters call it (whatever it is) when they report on it? I somehow doubt they use the given name... :-/ Martin

I have same question and don't know the answer -:) -- Taku 23:10 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)



I strongly disapprove the sentence Men are increasingly adopting the role of homemaker. Unless someone will take care of finding a more twisted but proper and accurate sentence to express this, I will just remove the sentence as being strongly misleading. a Wikipedia:WikiWomen

I agree, this sort of statement desperatly needs a cite ("According to a research, Men are increasingly adopting the role of homemaker.." would sound more valid (in a junk science newspaper way...)) but I think we should think of a replacement for that statement... -- Rotem Dan 17:59 2 Jun 2003 (UTC)
even better, in country xxx, according to the study from institute yyy, the number of hours men spent cleaning water closets and bathrooms during a year in 1960 and in 2000, compared to equivalent hours per women.
lol :) -- Rotem Dan 20:41 2 Jun 2003 (UTC)
Thanks for the refactoring. :-)

Sources[edit]

Find sources: "Housewife" – news · newspapers · books · scholar · JSTOR · free images

an F for feminidiots - where the hell did $138K salary come from?[edit]

I am talking about this nonsense: "As of May 2007, the average annual salary of a housewife in the U.S, if correlated to the total cost of outsourcing each element of his or her work to an external contractor, would be approximately $138,000.[2] Working mothers would earn $85,876 annually for the "mom job" portion of their work, in addition to their actual "work job" salary." Use your head, folks! Nowadays there is any number of women who are unemployed and desperately looking for work. Some are even homeless. Well, do you REALLY think that hiring one of them as a full-time 40 hours per week visiting housekeeper is going to cost $138K per year? I mean, people, helloooo! Keep it off the books and you can probably do it for $10K or so, and no need to do waste money on the "full time" aspect either. 76.24.104.52 (talk) 02:24, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, if you took my salary, added a chef's salary for the food I cook, a network engineer for when I fix my PC, a car mechanic for the work I do on my car and taxi driver for when I drive my girlfriend somewhere, I would be a millionaire. カンチョーSennen Goroshi ! (talk) 03:38, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Neutrality[edit]

changed However, in today's society (at least in the Western World), this oppression has ended to. However, in today's society (at least in the Western World), more options are available. as I think the former violates neutrality and the latter is more accurate Tydoni (talk) 00:04, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

women should be the bread winner since it is proven they are smarter than us men —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.237.142.5 (talk) 18:56, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

in my experience there is no difference in intelligence between women and men it varies from person to person but their gender doesn't affect it
Tydoni (talk) 19:23, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Terrible Lack of Sources[edit]

I just challenged some unsourced material on "Feminist Critique" and I actually did it because i believe one or two of the claims actually DO have verifiable sources, but the rest is garbage and thus must be removed. Even in the second paragraph where it says "Some feminists, as well as some non-feminist economists" is a terrible appeal to the numbers mixed with an appeal to authority because the by saying that some feminists and economists, it sounds like lots of "authorities" (appeal to the numbers and to authorities, a conflated logical fallacy) are making this claim and then only a single author and her co author are cited as the many authorities. If there are sources for this claim, it would at least help not to justify this conflated appeal to large numbers of authorities but to provide those of us who are interested in more sources to read, which I think is a great idea. If anyone knows good sources for this material, please cite it, but please don't add third-rate websites or other sources. since this section is about feminist critique, prominent feminists (those who have published work that has been widely read by their feminist peers, like all good peer reviews) are the best sources for the critique, as would be the critics of the critics. But please, let's insure the sources themselves are good, no third-rate website from some propaganda site because this does not help further the cause of feminism. only good, disciplined research can battle all the misinformation that eventually bites everyone in the butt in the end anyways. I will try to find some sources, but being only a amateur follower of feminism, I may not come up with sources more experienced and scholarly students of feminism might bring. Skaaii (talk) 21:54, 12 December 2009 (UTC)


I have to agree. Now I'm really not experienced in editing articles, but this does not seem to be a true, fact based article. In particular I note the 'What a homemaker does' section. Remembering everyone's birthdays? Really, that is hardly a task that is specific to a homemaker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.209.81.228 (talk) 15:25, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Homemaker in the Simple English Wikipedia[edit]

"Homemaker" has content which could usefully be included here. (Adding an "Expand" template has not worked.)--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 21:19, 9 December 2012 (UTC)