Talk:Hurricane Caroline

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Good articleHurricane Caroline has been listed as one of the Natural sciences good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
Article milestones
DateProcessResult
November 17, 2009Good article nomineeNot listed
January 28, 2013Good article nomineeNot listed
March 4, 2014Good article nomineeListed
Current status: Good article

Assessment[edit]

Copy-edit for B class.Mitchazenia(Its my birthday!!!) 16:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I just did some of it. It looks pretty good, should it be B now? RaNdOm26 12:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Good enough. More up to date sources and local, Spanish sources in Mexico for the impact section would be nice additions. Hurricanehink (talk) 14:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Caroline (1975)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Thegreatdr (talk) 15:30, 13 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Review[edit]

A few issues need to be resolved before GA passage can be achieved. Within the reference section, no acronyms are supposed to be used, which means UPI and AP need to be spelled out, and they should be wikilinked, along with National Hurricane Center. The rainfall impact on Texas should be addressed within the article. If you need to use the reference for the HPC rainfall page, this is the link. The specific advisories issued in advance of Caroline for northeast Mexico and southern Texas need to be within the article. Were they hurricane watches? Gale warnings? Blowing leaf advisories? Also, the last reference is not from a primary source, like HURDAT, so that needs to be fixed. You have until November 16 to make the necessary improvements. Thegreatdr (talk) 20:10, 9 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Twenty-seven more hours. Since there hasn't been an edit since the 10th, unless there's a flurry of last second edits to fix the problems above, failure is assured. Thegreatdr (talk) 17:35, 15 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The necessary improvements were not made. I'm failing the nomination. Thegreatdr (talk) 12:47, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Caroline/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: TheAustinMan (talk · contribs) 00:37, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Buggie111! I will be reviewing Hurricane Caroline's GAN.

Lead[edit]

  • Perhaps there is something more interesting than 'one of two tropical cyclones to affect northern Mexico' to start of the lead?
  • You use three instances of the word 'depression' in three consecutive sentences. I suggest using other synonyms, like system, or disturbance.
  • Instead of saying 'coming ashore' you could just say landfall.
  • Per WP:WPTC/S it is highly recommended that you include impacts associated with the hurricane. As for now it only contains meteorological history information that will be of slight appeal to the casual reader.

Meteorological history[edit]

  • "By noon on August 24, satellite imagery showed..." you should link satellite imagery to satellite imagery, instead of just cutting off the imagery part.
  • Link barometric pressure.
  • "The disturbance then became Tropical Depression Five as it neared northeastern Cuba and southeastern Bahamas. The depression crossed Cuba where it momentarily weakened back to a tropical wave. The storm then regained tropical depression status on August 27 as it continued westward into the Gulf of Mexico.[1]" Same problem here as you had in the lead. You should alternate depression. I suggest the second use of depression should be system.
  • "...was only 400 miles east-southeast..." Needs metric conversion.
  • "Caroline forward speed..." 'Caroline' needs an 's.
  • You link Brownsville, Texas twice in this section, please remove one hyperlink.

Preparations and impact[edit]

  • "...though its effects, if any are unknown." You need a comma after any.
  • "The National Hurricane Center issued..." No need to link NHC on its second usage.
  • What's an 'Emergency commutation'?
  • "Emergency commutations and relief and clean up organizations were notified of the upcoming threat." You can avoid using two 'ands' by changing the 'and' before relief to a comma, and then add a comma after relief as well.
  • Texas is linked twice, you should at least remove one, and change the remaining one to South Texas.
  • "Due to Caroline’s compact wind field, the winds only reached 48 mph (78 km/h) winds in Brownsville, Texas." Three 'wind(s)' in one sentence. I suggest re-wording to "Due to Caroline’s compact wind field, sustained winds only reached 48 mph (78 km/h) in Brownsville, Texas."
  • Brownsville, Texas is once again linked here. Remember, things should be linked only once in an article, outside of the lead.
  • "as 11.93 in (302 mm) Port Isabel." Missing an 'in' between mm) and Port.

See also[edit]

  • There are probably similar storms to Caroline. You could always use this link to find similar storms.

Other[edit]

  • A total of seven references on the article are dead links. This will have to be fixed in order to pass this GAN.

That's all I have for now. TheAustinMan(Talk·Works) 00:37, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]


Thanks! I'll get to work. Buggie111 (talk) 18:32, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A week-period has passed since Hurricane Caroline has been reviewed. Though most of the aforementioned issues have been fixed, more than half of the references citing facts on the article are dead links, which also means the information they cite is unverifiable with those sources. Unfortunately, this warrants that the GAN for Hurricane Caroline has failed. Once you do fix the sources, however, and feel the article is ready for GA, I encourage you to renominate the article. TheAustinMan(Talk·Works) 00:37, 28 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Hurricane Caroline/GA3. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: CycloneIsaac (talk · contribs) 21:41, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reviewing later.—CycloneIsaacE-Mail 21:41, 27 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Lead[edit]

Met. history[edit]

  • "The disturbance then became Tropical Depression Five as it neared northeastern Cuba and southeastern Bahamas." When?
  • "Caroline's forward speed slowed down to 5 mph (8 km/h) while intensifying and on the same day, Caroline was upgraded to hurricane status." I think you can spell out 5 mph...
    • Not fixed, common practice on Wikiproject articles?
  • "two hurricane hunter aircraft flew" Grammar issue?
  • I think you should mention when Caroline became a Category 3 hurricane.

Preparations and Impact[edit]

  • "Caroline also produced storm tides 1–4 feet (0.3-1.2 m) above normal along coastal sections of southern Texas. Overall damage in southern Texas was minor, and there were two indirect fatalities due to drowning incidents in Galveston, Texas." Cite this please.
  • "However, the rains broke an eight month drought that was affecting inland areas of northern Mexico that was affecting the area's corn production." Another use of however.

References[edit]

  • American Meteorological Society's website is in maintenance currently, checking again later.
  • I think you only need to link AP once the the references section.
  • A few Google news sources don't match its actual title...

Make sure you fix all problems from previous reviews, if there are any.—CycloneIsaacE-Mail 00:02, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Other issues[edit]

Hello Secret and CycloneIsaac, I have a few more thing to add to this review.--12george1 (talk) 01:02, 2 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

  • "Hurricane Caroline was a Category 3 hurricane during the 1975 Atlantic hurricane season. It was one of two tropical cyclones to affect northern Mexico during the 1975 Atlantic hurricane season." - You should probably merge these two together and not spell out the 1975 Atlantic hurricane season (don't link it twice either). My suggestion would be: "Hurricane Caroline was a Category 3 hurricane and one of two tropical cyclones to affect northern Mexico during the 1975 Atlantic hurricane season."
  • The impact in the lede is a bit lackluster. There are some ways to fix this. For example, you could be more specific on how those two indirect deaths occurred (drowning) and where (Galveston). If I didn't read past the lede, I might think nothing happened in Mexico, so elaborate there too.
  • "Two NOAA Research planes conducted experiments" - Make sure you state what NOAA stands for. So do something like these "Two National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Research planes conducted experiments"
  • Most of the references have specific dates. Format the dates to follow the pattern of the accessdate. For example, the date for reference #5 should be 1975-08-29.
  • On references #1 and #3, change the |author= parameters to |work=. Next, change "NOAA" to "National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration". The titles for both also need to be fixed. Change "NHC Report on Caroline" to "Preliminary Report Hurricane Caroline August 24 - September 1"
  • For the newspaper references, change the type of citation to: cite news. The |author= parameters should be changed to |agency=. Then |publisher= should be changed to |newspaper=.
  • On reference #9, "Hydrometeorological Prediction Center" should be "Weather Prediction Center"