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Untitled[edit]

The quote "and has the worst customer service in England" is I believe unfair and bias. How do you know this? Where is this evidence from? I think it should be deleted as it is just a statement and not a fact.

Whatever it's like in England, it can't be worse than the service you get in Australia. - Ta bu shi da yu 07:27, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
I have now had to go the Telecommunications Industry Ombudsman because 3 supplied me with a refurbished mobile phone that does not switch on at all! - Ta bu shi da yu 11:51, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

This article has a strange-looking TOC. Anyone know what to do?? Georgia guy 23:17, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Add the __NOTOC__ tag, and it goes away... Kiand 23:21, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)

If you wanted to factually address the customer service issue we could reference the sellin gon of non attributable debts furore as featured on BBC's watchdog. They are, by the way still selling off these debts in contravention of OFT policies. Just a thought. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.6.149.26 (talk) 15:55, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

What the article says about the Internet Access on 3 in the UK is not entirely true. Whilst it is true that they have removed the 'walled garden', it is not true to say that there is now free internet access. Rather, users are able to submit websites for 'consideration', and if selected, it is permitted. However, the 'improved' service has been running for some time now, and there are only in the region of 200 website permitted. 88.106.47.103 23:58, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

They recently modified the submission system for "open" port 80 access in the UK (using a third party proxy that modifies content passed through it known as WiderWeb), so that all users can access any HTTP service over port 80 (not sure about non HTTP traffic), at a cost of £0.50 for an hour, and £1.00 for 24 hours, they're also running a 24 hour trial of it for new customers. Not sure about citing references, but I happen to be a 3 customer.

VMlemon 23:05, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

3 reliability[edit]

As far as I can tell, they just aren't that reliable. For instance, as of the time of writing, a large number of Australian subscribers (is this the right word?) are not contactable because large parts of the 3 network have gone down. Has there been any studies as to 3's reliability? - Ta bu shi da yu 07:09, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

Quite wrong[edit]

Sorry, there are a few major mistakes in this article.

Firstly, 3 ist NOT an operator. It is a BRAND. The networks marketed unter that brand have quite different ownerships. This leaves me to: Secondly, the 3-network in Hong Kong is NOT owned by Hutchison Whampoa, but by HTIL. Hutchison Whampoa only holds a minority (!) interest in HTIL.

Thus, I'll do some major changes. Ds77 [sorry, I always forget that signing-thing :-) ]

restructure 3 international[edit]

Really, the 3 ownership section should each be subsections of the 3 international pieces, shouldn't it?

It'll take a bit of work... anyone disagree? Greg (talk) 07:45, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Agree. --Dima1 (talk) 11:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

"Hutchison 3G is a company" - really?[edit]

Hi

The article now starts with "Hutchison 3G is a company" rather than "3 is a brand" which was the start until recently (June 2008).

I am pretty sure 3 is a brand, so the former beginning was correct. I fear I am not so sure if Hutchison 3G is a company. If it is a company, who owns it? Hutchison Whampoa Limited does not own a company by that name, check out their directory.

There are some companies that exist and are worth to cover in the same article:

  • Hutchison 3G UK Limited is a company, operates under the brand "3" in the UK and is owned by Hutchison Whampoa Limited.
  • Hi3G Access AB is a company, operates under the brand "3" in Sweden and is owned by Hutchison Whampoa Limited and Investor AB
  • H3G S.p.A. is a company, operates under the brand "3" in Italy and is owned by Hutchison Whampoa Limited and some minor investors
  • Hutchison Telecommunications (Hong Kong) Limited is a company, operates under the brand "3" in Hong Kong, and is owned by Hutchison Telecommunications International Limited, which in turn is owned by Hutchison Whampoa Limited and Cheung Kong (Holdings) Limited

I would say these are all operating under the same brand, and to a good extend are all owned by Hutchison Whampoa Limited , directly or indirectly.

But what really brings them together is the brand, I have a hard time seeing a company by the name "Hutchison 3G".

-- 62.178.12.228 (talk) 21:44, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

If you look at the markings on their masts it does actually say property of Hutchison 3G UK well at least it does in the UK! I know because I have to walk past one on the way to work.

New UMTS roaming area in Australia[edit]

These days THREE is promoting its new 3G roaming area in Oz. I don't know which partner's network does THREE borrow, but it sounds like Telstra's NextG network. So could anybody investigate on this and update the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.250.29.174 (talk) 03:02, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

UK roaming[edit]

As far as I understand 2G roaming is in agreement with orange whereas 3G is shared with T-mobile —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.222.169 (talk) 13:08, 10 June 2009 (UTC)

Yes, 3's 2G roaming is on Orange. I've corrected this. Jckcip (talk) 23:23, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Contradiction in the UK section[edit]

At the beginning of the section it mentions that 3 uses T-Mobile UK's 2G network when its own is unavailable yet at the bottom of the article it mentions that 3 has made an agreement with T-Mobile UK to share their 3G networks but will not share the 2G network. I think the first mention of 2G was supposed to be with Orange UK not T-Mobile and T-Mobile only share 3G. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.128.116.98 (talk) 21:00, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

3 UK have a roaming agreement with Orange and have site sharing with T-Mobile. The two are very different. I've corrected the roaming reference. Jckcip (talk) 23:24, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Internet max content restrictions in the UK[edit]

Currently it says that the restrictions have been lifted in the UK. However adult content sites redirect to 3 pay-for provided content offered by 3 UK. Furthermore some wikipedia articles related to sexuality and adult health also get redirected to 3 UK pay-for website which doesn't have any educational information there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.237.85.247 (talk) 12:18, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Swaths in italics[edit]

A whole lot of this artical is in italics. I don't know enough about Wiki's formating to take this off. I think double (?) single (?) quotes are supposed to do it. I couldn't see them when trying to edit though! Can someone else help. Dannman (talk) 14:27, 25 February 2012 (UTC)

UK Subscribers[edit]

Uswitch reports that Three's UK customer base now sits at 8.8 million. Can this be added to the United Kingdom section of the article [1] EllieHobbit (talk) 14:08, 15 November 2012 (UTC)

No unless you can find a better source. (WP:RS) --Biker Biker (talk) 21:15, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for the response Uswitch are generally considered as a neutral party within the telecoms industry. Not to worry, how about this reference [2] EllieHobbit (talk) 10:13, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
That article is based on the company's own data. It would be better to produce subscriber figures from an independent industry source that aren't simply regurgitating press releases. --Biker Biker (talk) 11:00, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for your response. All articles written about companies are invariably based on data which comes from the company itself otherwise how would these outlets know what our figures were? EllieHobbit (talk) 08:48, 23 November 2012 (UTC)

isses with one line on the uk section[edit]

When launched the network will provide LTE and DC-HSDPA service as a standard feature to all its subscribers using "Ultrafast" to describe both technologies.[68]


apart from three no longer use the Ultrafast branding and dc is now advanced 3g and lte will be 4g ready — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.44.0.130 (talk) 13:38, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Dead Link[edit]

Reference 42 is to a dead link. I've searched both main archiving websites and they don't have a suitable copy of page to use. Can anyone recommend a replacement?

InsantyDotCom (talk) 13:10, 12 March 2014 (UTC)

  1. ^ http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news/2012/11/three_adds_1m_customers/
  2. ^ http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2225183/three-adds-one-million-customers-in-12-months