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Redirect to the Hyundai Group[edit]

Hyundai is the name used by some of the companies that was split off from the Hyundai Group in 2001. "Hyundai" and the former Hyundai Group is the same thing. - Jerryseinfeld 19:59, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

The Hyundai Group still operates. Hyundai Motors Corporation, "Hyundai" cars if you prefer, are not associated with the Hyundai group. Hyundai, the word, is a brand. When you go to http://www.hyundai.com you get redirected to http://www.hyundai-motor.com/. When you go to http://www.huyndaigroup.com, you are in a different place. (a broken one at that). Christopher Mahan 20:11, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
According to Korea Fair Trade Commission, Hundai Group was split into five groups in 2001. --JM Robert 21:09, Dec 18, 2004 (UTC)
Is this a joke? REDIRECT IT TO Hyundai Group. - Jerryseinfeld 22:55, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Improper Links[edit]

I've deleted 2 weblinks to un-related website's claiming to be the Hyundai website in the article. I've deleted these links:

Quote from article.

www.wmhaber.com/ www.guzelsozler.web.tr/

Blurb[edit]

Why add "Hyundai is an internationally recognized brand"? It is not NPOV. I think use "Hyundai is a multinational corporation best known for automobile" or something similar would be better. I don't see that kind of blurb on Samsung. If no one objects, revert it please. --JM Robert 00:24, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)

because Hyundai is a brand. The multinational corporation you're referring to is Hyundai Motor Company. Christopher Mahan 02:06, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Why still the "neutrality of this article is disputed."?[edit]

Ok so why is the NPOV tag still on this article... Do we still have a problem with the blurb part? Or is it something else I'm missing? Strawberry Island 03:19, 10 January 2006 (UTC)

Just removed the tag.--Lapin rossignol 08:21, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit]

Whats with the logo? The yellow-green triangle logo is an old logo. Most people don't recognize now. We should change it to the modern blue, slanted H. Oyo321 23:56, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

That rounded and slanted H logo is for Hyundai Motor Group only, not for the greater Hyundai Group, although it's true there is some difficulties in defining the official logo after the breakup of Hyundai into several entities. -- noirum 01:08, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

English Pronunciation[edit]

Why is the common pronunciation of Hyundai in American English, i.e. the one rhyming with sunday, labeled incorrect? I understand that the literal transliteration may not pronounce that way. But isn't it true that the correct American English pronunciation is whatever the Hyundai's U.S. representative/importer/dealer says it is, provided that it doesn't grossly violate any common spelling/pronunciation rule. It's a business decision, not an academic one. So I suggest a more neutral labeling, such as "different", be used instead of "incorrect", when talking about the pronunciation in U.S. English. Similarly, for other English speaking regions. Whatever the Hyundai's authority for that region says how the word should be pronounced is correct. --- 00:50, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Interestingly, the Polish TV commercials for Hyundai cars come with a voiceover saying "H-you-n-day" (excuse me for my lousy attempt at presenting pronunciation not using those funky characters), and this pronunciation is so common in Poland with regard to everything "Hyundai" that it would never occur to me it is wrong. That said, I believe that this is a Korean word and pronuncing it anyway other than how native Korean speakers would is somehow "incorrect", Bravada, talk - 01:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
TV commercials are generally not the best source for the most accurate pronunciation; commercials are meant to foster recognition, not inform. To those ends, they'll use the most recognized pronunciation, rather than the most accurate. If you do talk to people higher up in the ranks at Hyundai's American arms, you'll find the 'y' returns. It's just marketing that drops it in the interest of making a name that customers can pronounce with confidence.
I'm going to reword the section to be a little less judgemental and use IPA rather than ambiguous English spellings. — AKADriver 18:20, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

Name[edit]

"Hyundai Group" redirects here. "Hyundai Group" should be about the elevator/tourism group of companies (http://www.hyundaigroup.com/eng/). (I undid the redirect, and completely rewrote Hyundai Group)

"Hyundai Corporation" also redirects here. Hyundai Corporation is a trading/shipbuilding group of companies, and should also have a separate page. (http://www.hyundaicorp.com/eng/)

I bet a lot of people looking for info on Hyundai cars, or computer parts, or construction company, type "Hyundai" and get very confused when they see this article. CronusXT 19:17, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I'm gonna try to collect some research material here. Somebody please help out integrating the info into appropriate article(s).

This Hyundai Group article should end up looking something like this overview here: [1] (I integrated the timeline into Hyundai Group)

  • Hyundai Group: In 1947, Hyundai Togun, the initial company of the Hyundai Group, was established. In 1950, Hyundai Togun was renamed Hyundai Construction. In 1967, Hyundai Motors established. In 1976, Asia Merchant Marine Co. established, later changed name to Hyundai Merchant Marine Co. In 1977, Asan Foundation established. In 1983, Hyundai Elevators established. In 1986, established Hyundai Research Institute. In 1988, established Asian Sangsun, renamed Hyundai Logistics in 1992. During the IMF bailout, Hyundai acquired Kia Motors and LG Semi-Conductor. In 1998, began Mt. Kumgang Tourism. In 1999, established Hyundai Asan, operating Kumgang tourism, Gaesung Industrial Complex, other inter-Korean work. [2] (This has now been integrated into Hyundai Group)
  • Another timeline, focusing on Motors: [3]
  • Brief overview: [4]
  • Hyundai Heavy Industries: ship-building, off-shore, power generation and industrial plant, as well as the production of a broad range of Construction Equipment and Forklift Trucks. Construction Equipment division was initially created in 1985, as part of the Heavy Machine division, but soon gained independence as an autonomous division in 1987. By 1988, the first in-house designed excavators (21t and 29t size) were launched in the domestic Korean market. By 1991, as the product range expanded, the export potential of Construction Equipment was realized, and Chicago branch office was first established, followed in 1993 by the formation of Rotterdam Overseas Inc. in the Netherlands, to spearhead the foray into Europe. In 1995, two further major steps were taken: the establishment of Hyundai Heavy Industries Europe NV at Geel in Belgium, to consolidate the presence in Europe, and also the first steps into China with the formation of the Changzhou Joint Venture.[5]
  • Short Hyundai Motors overview: [6]
  • Short Hyundai Motors timeline: [7] [8]

Ok, need other people's help, please. CronusXT 22:43, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

I've started rewriting Hyundai Group, so that the page is actually about Hyundai Group. I think this Hyundai page should actually have the contents of the Hyundai (disambiguation) page. I have no clue what to do with the Hyundai Group (disambiguation) page. This is crazy. CronusXT 01:15, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

I think we should start with this article. We should expand this (hyundai history, hyundai today, etc). Then we should organize all the hyundai divisions in the article and expand upon those. Good friend100 03:04, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Rhymes with apple...[edit]

The article previously claimed that the /ae/ in Hyundai sounds like the a in "apple." I've seen that claim before in books intended to teach Korean to English speakers, but it's not even that similar. See Korean language#Sounds and Open-mid front unrounded vowel. I have changed it to say that /dae/ is similar to the English word "day." --Reuben 02:36, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Its more like "hyundeh". "Day" is a little off. Good friend100 02:41, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it should be written hyunde or hyundei, but you can blame that on the Koreans who want to distance their romanization of words from Japanese romanization. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.134.244.230 (talk) 17:30, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Hyundai Development Group[edit]

Is there such a thing is Hyundai Development Group? Can someone help out sorting out all the relationships here with a good recent source? CronusXT 16:30, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Hyundai department store logo.jpg[edit]

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Fair use rationale for Image:Hyundai heavy industries logo.gif[edit]

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