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I'm not supposed to edit this entry since I had and still have too much to do with creating sunsite/ibiblio. But I can point you to some recent resources that will help add to this entry. Our 2006 Annual Report should have the kinds of data and references that would be useful to an entry author.

And as We begin to plan our 15th year the wiki that we are using for that purpose will have plenty of history to draw from.

We have links to copies of a number of primary documents relating to ibiblio/sunsite here, an article from the Feb 1996 D-Lib Magazine about sunsite here, and a PDF of a masters paper on "A Case Study In The Organizational Development Of A Digital Library: SunSITE - MetaLab - Ibiblio" from 2002 here.--Smalljones 16:36, 12 February 2007 (UTC)


I know that, for a lot of people, SunSITE refer to the site sunsite.unc.edu (which was significant). However it seems there were (and are) other sites named SunSITE. Sun has a page about their Sun SITE Program. Could someone elaborate? Is it okay to have SunSITE redirect to the Ibiblio article? R4p70r 05:29, 18 November 2005 (UTC)

Looks like that page has been withdrawn from sun.com since my previous post. Archive.org link: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.sun.com/sunsite/ R4p70r 20:40, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

a couple of references[edit]

"The Renaissance geek" The Raleigh News & Observer January 28, 2001 Author: David Menconi; Staff Writer Edition: Final Section: Sunday Journal Page: D1 Index Terms: Lead; Profile; UNC-CH; information highway; Paul Jones; ibiblio; Internet Copyright 2001 by The News & Observer Pub. Co. (Since purchased by McClatchy Group)

This article is a 10 printed page profile of Paul Jones, quite supportably, the founder of ibiblio. The article reads, "By the early 1990s, the World Wide Web was growing. Jones turned UNC [Chapel Hill] into one of its major outposts with SunSITE, which started up in 1992 with funding from Sun Microsystems 'to share software and things of interest.' At the time, Jones says, UNC[CH] was the only institution outside of high-energy physics projects to have its own Web server. The Internet consisted of a dozen computer bulletin boards and fewer than 200 discussion newsgroups. SunSITE had acres of digital space but not much material. So Jones kept an eye out for material to put online."

The keyword here is "material." There wasn't any. Essentially what Jones "put online" was anything and everything scannable and within reach. This means that ibiblio started out as an unstructured, eclectic mess. I think this addition to ibiblio's wikipedia entry is important especially since "digitization projects" are hot ideas now. Early ibiblio.org was an example of a digitization project gone beserk.

Also, an additional reference to Jones'online biography at http://www.ibiblio.org/pjones/

additional references (sorry)[edit]

Roberta730 20:52, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

Google link at bottom[edit]

What on Earth happened to ibiblio in the middle of 2006???? Douglas A. Whitfield of http://www.ibiblio.org/cosi 03:16, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Third What-est?[edit]

Two concerns:

  • Article claims iBib is the "third-largest" website, and documents it with a link to another WP article saying iBiblio is the "third-oldest." I'm skeptical about both claims. Anyone willing to document either or both?
  • I came here trying to figure out the relationship between iBiblio and Project Gutenberg. Both sites link to one another, but seem to be silent on whether or how much they overlap or coordinate resources. Anyone able to provide clarification? --TheEditrix2 19:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
    • I would say both of "third" claims could foreseeably be true, for a reasonably definition, but I can't immediately find any sources that give a definitive answer. SunSITE actually pre-dated the WWW, and the first UNC webpage on it was written by Sir Tim Berners-Lee. If I recall, someone at UNC wrote a Ph.D. thesis on the project that might help, though I don't have the reference to hand.
    • sunsite.unc.edu was set up by TBL when he was in the US for Hypertext 91 in San Antonio. I have Tim's demo page and my pathetic hack of it still. Here is TBL's with a little bad editing http://www.ibiblio.org/pjones/old.page.html and here is mine http://www.ibiblio.org/pjones/old.paul.html made during that visit. --Smalljones (talk) 21:43, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
    • I think Project Gutenberg was originally hosted on SunSITE. I have no idea the link now, though. Hippo (talk) 17:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
    • Yes we are the primary host for PG. They have our hosted logo right on http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Main_Page Smalljones (talk) 21:37, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Merger[edit]

I propose to merge the Sunsite article into this article, as ibiblio was called SunSET before. Sae1962 (talk) 13:47, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Oppose. They describe different things, and I am perfectly happy with the content (from a content point of view) of both. Sunsite links back to here, but there should also be a link from here to Sunsite (other than the merge request), so I added a link for "the name" in the sentence "It was funded by grants from Sun Microsystems, and thus the name". Hlovdal (talk) 00:19, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Data security[edit]

There is limited information in the article on the nuts and bolts of Ibiblio that relate to its content. Could anyone expand on this aspect?
How difficult would it be for the resource that Ibiblio represents to vanish? I wonder, for instance, how easily such a vanishing could be achieved, either technically (by hacking into data stores or servers) or politically (e.g the host organisation withdrawing funding etc). It seems to me that, as the internet wipes out public libraries etc., such matters are central to understanding online information repositories. LookingGlass (talk) 05:12, 12 June 2013 (UTC)

The problem with google[edit]

Does anybody knows why this site is marked as an "attack page" by google? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jringoot (talkcontribs) 15:59, 11 December 2013 (UTC)