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Section sizes

Section size for Ice shelf (21 sections)
Section name	Byte count	Section total
(Top)	3,767	3,767
Definition	1,790	1,790
Properties	1,084	2,901
Height	1,817	1,817
By country or region	28	6,309
Antarctica	4,425	4,814
Ross Ice Shelf	281	281
Filchner–Ronne Ice Shelf	108	108
Arctic	16	1,467
Canada	578	578
Russia	873	873
Impacts of climate change	258	258
Disruption	803	4,586
Disruption of Thwaites Ice Shelf	179	179
Disruption of Larsen Ice Shelf	623	703
Disruption of Larsen B Ice Shelf	80	80
Disruption of Filchner–Ronne Ice Shelf	112	112
Disruption of Ellesmere Ice Shelf (Arctic)	2,789	2,789
See also	126	126
References	28	28
External links	745	745
Total	20,510	20,510

Ayles Ice Shelf Article Needed[edit]

Ayles Ice Shelf broke up in 2005, here is the article http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=5e511719-09ec-4c3a-9dd1-69aa37c3014e&k=39191 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.144.29.208 (talk) 14:35, 28 December 2006 (UTC).[reply]

I added an External Link to the main article pointing to the CNN story about Alyles... CNN stories tend to stay accessible on the web a lot longer than canada.com stories. Dzubint 18:22, 29 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Shelf ice[edit]

Shelf ice redirects here. I am goning to make it into a separate article. If this is a problem then merge the two. This seems to discuss arctic and antarctic floating ice. I know of the word "shelf ice" as refering to the ice that forms at the upper part of a lake that freezes and is then washed upon the shore. This is common with the Great Lakes --Kalmia 07:55, 4 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ice Shelf Disruptions[edit]

I changed "global warming" to "climate change". The former implies that AGW is solely responsible. The latter article takes into account that Earth goes through natural climactic changes. Ice Shelfs are always on the move (contracting, retracting,) an excellent example of this phenomena is given by Professor Syun-Ichi Akasofu in a documentary called The Great Global Warming Swindle. --Dean1970 04:55, 24 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Climate change article takes into account AGW too, and explains in more detail Earth's climactic history [1]. Global warming article centres around (mainly on human activity/impact). If we're just going to use Wikipedia as a tool to blame climate change on us pesky humans I'd rather we just have done with it and direct the link on this article to the movie The Day After Tomorrow. --Dean1970 00:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

If you're citing TGGWS as RS, you've lost. The recent change gets blamed on recent GW, not on CC from earlier eras. Just because you can't get your POV into the GW article please don't start a proxy battle here William M. Connolley 08:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Neutrality[edit]

Not to freak out or anything here, but the section "Ice Shelf Disruption" contains the following sentence: "The breakup events are linked to the dramatic polar warming trends that are part of global warming..." Would it kill anyone to change this to a more neutral tone, given that despite what most people say global warming is not a proven science? Thanks... Undomiel 22:31, 13 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

LIST[edit]

The list of Antarctic ice shelves is quite long I think it would be good to split it off as a list page Polargeo (talk) 07:25, 3 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Separation done Polargeo (talk) 08:53, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Compare with Ice Tongue[edit]

The definition of ice shelf seems so broad that it would include ice tongues as well. I'm no glaciologist so I'd prefer that someone else make the fix if possible.Jimtitus (talk) 20:55, 22 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Svalbard[edit]

The glacier Bråsvellbreen in the southern part of Nordaustlandet in the Svalbard archipelago (north of Norway) flows out over the sea, in what appears to be an ice shelf. Should this also be included in this article (it is not), or is there a reason why this does not qualify as an ice shelf? Awernham (talk) 13:32, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Greenland?[edit]

"Ice shelves are only found in Antarctica, Greenland, Canada and the Russian Arctic."

Didn't see it. Kortoso (talk) 18:17, 6 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Ice shelves are principally driven by gravity-driven pressure"[edit]

"driven by gravity-driven" Should the word driven be used twice in a sentence like that, so close to each other? Dogman15 (talk) 05:24, 13 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Percentage of coastline with ice[edit]

this article said 74%, the other one said 44%. I generalized it for now until we can come up with a better figure. see related discussion at other article's talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:List_of_Antarctic_ice_shelves#Extent_of_ice_shelves_around_coast Quickmythril (talk) 08:50, 25 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Densities overstated 1000 times[edit]

The figures given overstate the densities of water and ice by about 1000 times. They say that a cubic meter of each weighs more or less a kilogram. Think about that; a tank that is one meter long on each edge--slightly more than a yard wide, high, and deep--filled with water. That would be rather more than 2.2 pounds. In fact, it would be 1000 kilograms--somewhat more than a ton. Uporządnicki (talk) 09:33, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I went ahead and fixed it. I hesitated at first to do it, based only on my own knowledge--even if it is pretty standard science. But I looked at the sources cited, and they do justify my corrections. In fact, one of them does specifically say 850 kilograms per cubic meter, where this article had said 0.85 kg/m³. Uporządnicki (talk) 11:49, 23 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Antarctic ice shelf figure[edit]

The current figure highlights the extreme maximum winter extent of Antarctic sea ice in the observational record, and the caption previously misrepresented this record sea ice as the (seasonal?) maximum extent of the ice shelves.

The figure does not appear to be appropriate for visualizing the geographic locations and extents of current Antarctic ice shelves, and should probably be changed. Puddlesofmilk (talk) 20:53, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Use excerpts for the content regarding climate change?[edit]

I am thinking of adding some excerpts here for more up to date content about the disruptions due to climate change. I assume this is covered already in more depth in some other articles, e.g. at Thwaites glacier. It would be similar to the changes that I've just made at ice sheet, i.e. using excerpts for any of the details that are continuously changing (research in melting etc.). Pinging User:InformationToKnowledge for comment? EMsmile (talk) 22:47, 20 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]