Talk:If You're Happy and You Know It

Bomb

The original version of this page contained the following version of the "bomb Iraq" song, but it differed from the cited source, so I changed it. I actually think the following one is a better example of political satire, but I can't find its source. Hmm. Which one, if either, should we keep?

If you cannot find Osama, bomb Iraq.

If the markets are a drama, bomb Iraq.

If the terrorists are frisky,

Pakistan is looking shifty,

North Korea is too risky,

Bomb Iraq.

-- Oliver P. 01:33 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)

The penultimate line of this one doesn't scan (if should maybe be "North Korea is far too risky"). But really, the version above seems "better", but without a source for it, I don't think we should give it in the article. By the way, I always sang the line given in the article as "Then your face will surely show it" as "And you really want to show it" - I don't know if this is a US/UK divide, or just my deprived (or depraved) upbringing. --Camembert

It scans fine to me: ../.../. Your alternate form has an extra syllable that I can't fit; are you collapsing "Korea is" into "Korea's", perhaps? --Brion 01:58 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)

I'm pronouncing "Korea" with two syllables, which is perhaps wrong. I can make it stretch to three, but it sounds awkward and wrong to me. I blame my poetic soul - "over" is "o'er" and "heav'n" only has one syllable, right? --Camembert

It scans for me, as I pronounce "Korea" with three syllables. Does that make me unpoetic? ;) As for the words, I only ever knew the version that you gave, but I left the line as it was, thinking that maybe the originator of the article knew something I didn't. Are you British, Camembert? I can't see you in Wikipedia:Wikipedians/United Kingdom. I suppose we should establish the national differences and put them in the article. If we can be bothered... -- Oliver P. 02:20 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)

Yes, I'm British. Now I come to think of it, I have a record of British Brownies singing this (no, really) where the line is "And you really want to show it", and have a recording of some unknown American singing it where it's "Then your face...", so I guess it is indeed a national divide. "Two countries divided by a common language" and all that. I'll add a mention of the alternative to the article. --Camembert

Ah, it seems that even the strangest items in one's record collection come in useful at some point. :) Thanks for establishing that! -- Oliver P. 02:34 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)

I'm not so sure the divide is national. I'm from New England and always heard "and you really want to show it" growing up. A bit of Googling seems to indicate that Barney sings "really want to show it," too, and he's American. I'll change the article to be less precise. ^L_Wizard @ 04:49, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Found a source: http://www.foodrevolution.org/iraq.htm —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.44.158.48 (talk) 00:45, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

I don't understand how someone can pronounce Korea in two syllables unless the stress is moved to the first syllable. /kə'ri:ə/ (kuh-REE-uh) three syllables. For two syllables we need /i:/ to become /j/ and the stress shifted: /'kɔrjə/ (KAWR-yuh). 167.107.191.217 (talk) 20:03, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

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Hmm. Does anyone else think that the ratio of factual content to political satire is getting a bit low? Perhaps we should only include one verse, just to illustrate the idea, and then put in an external link to show where people can read more if they are interested. -- Oliver P. 21:05 Feb 2, 2003 (UTC)

Dates?

Is this really a 1916 song (like the categories say) whose copyright ran out in 2001, or was that date-range referring to the lifespan of the author, who's redlinked as of this writing? -- Arvedui (talk) 09:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

She'll Be Coming Round the Mountain & von den blauen Bergen kommen wir

Strangely enough Youtube links this song to the 2 songs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/She%27ll_Be_Coming_%27Round_the_Mountain and "von den blauen Bergen kommen wir" (german version).

And the melodys of all 3 songs are not just similar, they sound like variations on the same theme. And all the 3 songs have even more lyrical variations sung mostly at various sport events.

What is going on here and where does it put the citation that is needed for the claim of origin named in this article? -- Ollj 26 October 2011

Additional citations

Why and where does this article need additional citations for verification? What references does it need and how should they be added? Hyacinth (talk) 07:34, 10 March 2012 (UTC)