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Gargoyle?[edit]

Where does the gargoyle origin come from? And do we need the "Final Fantasy" reference here? Ifrits have been used in numerous games, movies and books, no need to single one out. Ausir 13:39, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, but Final Fantasy is "speshul". MasterGrazzt 15:43, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Other games are just as prominent in the article, but I think it's okay that it has its own mini-section, since there are so many Final Fantasy games and Ifrit is more well-known in FF than in other games (to my knowledge).Ravenwolf Zero 17:02, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

Disambiguate?[edit]

Shouldn't the first part about the Islamic afreet be separated out from the rest of the article?

Just deleted section[edit]

I wrote the Ifrits in Recent Fiction section back in December - I was looking for more info on a kind of creature I had just met in a second author's books, and took the "please add to this stub" message at face value. I have spent some time at Wikipedia since then and can see that the section I wrote doesn't suit this project; I just deleted it.--Iestyn 06:55, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

made of fire[edit]

Regarding this comment: "Ifrits in common mythology are jinn spirits that embody the fire." Aren't all jinn supposed to be made from (smokeless) fire? What differentiates ifrit from other jinn?


Ifrit is stronger?

but smokeless fire should be added to the article because its what makes the fire different to the one you get from burning stuff.

According to what? I really wish there were more about Arabic literature, mythology and Burton's use of Ifrit here after the Qur'ān references (especially when compared to the length of its use in popular culture and among gamers). Wikiality, alas! Khirad 03:23, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

What is the grammar?[edit]

In Dungeons and Dragons, the singular form is "efreeti" and plural is "efreet". Is this correct Arabic? If not, what are the correct forms? Someone please add to the article. SpectrumDT 18:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)


Trivial Information[edit]

The actual article of the Ifrit is woefully small in comparison to the video games they've been in. Move it or lose it. 63.84.192.253 (talk) 19:44, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

It does seem odd that references to Ifrit in computer games is as long as the rest of the article. I don't suggets the computer game references be removed (though some sourcing would be nice) but the rest of the article needs an expansion. Will do some work on this but I'm starting from scratch - anyone with some of the more useful reference works able to add anything here? Euryalus (talk) 00:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Merger of this page and Ifrit in popular culture[edit]

I'm recommending the merger of Ifrit in popular culture into this article. Both articles are too short to really need to be separated, and I think the other one can be controlled better if it was a section on this page.--ip.address.conflict (talk) 04:59, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Strongly agree. Also, popular culture is surely more than video and roleplaying games, lets see if we can expand it a little further. Euryalus (talk) 05:04, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Agree A merger makes sense. ChildofMidnight (talk) 09:08, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Strong Agree I have also put merge tags on similar articles by the same user for Marid and sprite (creature). Balor in popular culture is up for AfD, but is in the same position as these ones and just nbeeds to be recombined. To me it seems that a pp culture article doesn't work without info on what the ing actually is. Thank you --Beligaronia (talk) 22:57, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
Agree. As above, doesn't contain sufficient information to be separate. Greggers (tc) 17:48, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

etymology of ifrit?[edit]

The part about ifrit most likely being rebellious from the following part of the article was deleted: "Ifrit's mention in the Qur'an and the Hadith, the eyewitness narratives of Muhammad's words and actions, is always in the phrase “the ifrit of the jinn” and most likely means “rebellious.” Ifrit has come to refer to an entire class of formidable, rebellious beings, but in the confused world of underworld spirits." It does lead one to wonder what the etymology of the word really is. List_of_English_words_of_Persian_origin indicates it may come "from Persian afarida created being." I think Muslims tend to believe the words in the Quran are all of Arabic origin (regardless of what non-Muslims may believe); thus, there probably is an Arabic etymology or pseudo-etymology for the word. Incidentally, another type of jinn, the Marid really is alleged to mean rebel; the OED states "Arabic mrid, active participle of marada to rebel." Шизомби (talk) 03:40, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

Vampiric Spirit[edit]

Does it have some connection the vampire? I've heard of mythology, that it can be a Vampiric spirit of a murder victim seeking to avenge his/her death. The Unbeholden (talk) 19:11, 11 December 2009 (UTC)

Move to afreet please[edit]

The spelling afreet is used as the main entry for the creature in the American Heritage Dictionary, the Collins English Dictionary and the Oxford Canadian. What is the source of the English spelling "ifrit"?--Sonjaaa (talk) 14:08, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Copied uncredited text[edit]

I did a little editing in the section that formerly began with ""Ifrit's mention in the Qur'an and the Hadith, the eyewitness narratives of Muhammad's words," but I soon discovered that most of this paragraph seems to have been copied and pasted from this Britannica article: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/282188/ifrit

This should be either credited or re-written. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CLSwiki (talkcontribs) 17:05, 18 August 2011 (UTC)


I agree, but as copyvio it needed removing - as you've given the source, anyone can use that to either quote some of it (but not all) or as a source (which must look substantially different, not just tweaked). Dougweller (talk) 19:20, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

Low-Quality Image[edit]

I think that the image depicting an alleged efreet flying over a desert may not be good enough of an image for this article. It's an amateurish photoshop job of two different artworks for the card Mahamoti Djinn from the Magic: The Gathering card game. http://magiccards.info/scans/en/7e/84.jpg http://magiccards.info/scans/en/al/65.jpg Not only are they not representations of a traditional efreet, neither of them are even an efreet in the fictional work from which they originate. 75.114.229.143 (talk) 04:15, 24 September 2013 (UTC)