Talk:Image of God

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Post Biblical?[edit]

The New Testament is certainly not post-biblical, and most Christians would disagree that Wisdom of Solomon and and Ben Sirach are extra-biblical, let alone post-biblical.

Imago Dei and Human Rights[edit]

In editing this section, I'd like to add more philosophers/sources to this discussion other than John Locke.

Ideas include: David Hume, Stoics, The Universal Declaration of Human Rights (United Nations)

Any other ideas? Jurgen Moltmann[1] --Craftyserpent (talk) 18:58, 15 October 2014 (UTC), Bonhoeffer maybe? (Regan has a section where she talks about his interpretation of Imago Dei as freedom [2]

We would have to draw the connection to Imago Dei specifically, but I think the connection is definitely there between at least these three. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Craftyserpent (talkcontribs) 18:49, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Jurgen Moltmann would definitely be appropriate to add since there's a source that explicitly connects Imago Dei to his thinking. The others would need sources that explicitly link the Imago Dei to those ideas, as we do not use original research. Ian.thomson (talk) 19:00, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Ethna Regan's book Theology and the Boundary Discourse of Human Rights is a great source that I'm using to explore this Craftyserpent (talk) 19:19, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

The association between Imago dei and Human Rights should properly be an argument for the Christian origin of Human Rights. In Glen H. Stassen book, he argues that the concept and the term human rights originated more than a half-century before the Enlightenment thinkers like John Locke. Imago dei in reference to religious liberty of all persons was used by the free churches at the time of Puritan Revolution [3] Ceewilson (talk) 01:01, 18 November 2014 (UTC)


I'm thinking about moving that section about Islam into a section that has more to do with Islam specifically. I included it for a want of having as many traditions represented in this section as possible (I want to at least have the three Abrahamic faiths represented), but it seems like it would fit better in a section about Islam rather than Imago Dei. Perhaps both? Craftyserpent (talk) 17:45, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

The content of parts of this section is really sparse. Are the sections even necessary if you can't say much about them? Also the wording is very rough and could be clarified. EditThisThing (talk) 14:27, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

Imago Dei and the Physical Body[edit]

the section on "old Testament Scholarship" in this section has a reference to "Hebrews". I'm thinking that that is a reference to Ancient Israelites, but it also may sound like it's talking about the Book of Hebrews. I'm wondering how to clarify that. Should we just replace "Hebrews" with "Ancient Israelites"? or is it good as it is? Craftyserpent (talk) 04:05, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

I agree and changed it to Ancient Israelites. I think its clearer and more accurate. Karamazovkids (talk) 10:36, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

Further Reading Suggestions[edit]

Here is the Further Reading list that I have edited. What else would you add?Pneumatechie (talk) 05:14, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Image of God Definition/Introduction[edit]

I propose we group-edit the definition/introduction that appears at the top of the wiki article. List your version of the definition/introduction here.

Current/Beginning Version[edit]

  • The Image of God (Hebrew: צֶלֶם אֱלֹהִים tzelem elohim, lit. "image of God", often appearing in Latin as Imago Dei) is a real image, concept and theological doctrine in Christianity, Judaism[4] and Sufi Islam,[5][6] which asserts that human beings are created in God's image and therefore have inherent value independent of their utility or function.

Edited Versions[edit]

  • The Image of God (Latin: Imago Dei, Hebrew: צֶלֶם אֱלֹהִים (tzelem elohim, lit. "image of God")) is a concept and theological doctrine found in Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. Study concerning the image of God typically describes humanity's relationship to God on the one hand and humanity's relationship to all other living creatures and the physical realm on the other.Pneumatechie (talk) 05:54, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
  • ...which asserts that human beings are created in God's "image" so to speak, although the source of this term in the Book of Genesis is not defined or explained. IZAK (talk) 12:22, 16 December 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pneumatechie (talkcontribs)

References[edit]

  1. ^ Ratnaraj, Billa (2003). The Significance of the Concept of Imago Dei for a Theology of Human Rights in the Writings of Jürgen Moltmann. Calcutta: Serampore College. 
  2. ^ Regan, Ethna (2010). Theology and the Boundary Discourse of Human Rights. Washington, DC: Georgetown University Press. p. 71. ISBN 1589016580. 
  3. ^ Just Peacemaking: Transforming Initiatives for Justice and Peace. Louisville, KY: Westminster, 1992.
  4. ^ An article by Michael Novak [1]
  5. ^ Bukhari, Isti’zan, 1; Muslim, Birr, 115, Muslim, Jannah, 28.
  6. ^ Yahya Michot: "The image of God in humanity from a Muslim perspective" in Norman Solomon, Richard Harries and Tim Winte (ed.): Abraham’s Children: Jews, Christians and Muslims in conversation p. 163-74. New York 2005, T&T Clark.