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- 1 Montage Needed
- 2 "Indianapolis Daredevils"
- 3 "Racing Capital of the World"
- 4 Naptown Debate
- 5 Population
- 6 New State House Image
- 7 Festivals, Events, Conventions, Organizations
- 8 Good Morning Miss Bliss
- 9 Transportation
- 10 Requested move
- 11 Page length
- 12 Requested move
- 13 Climate
- 14 Reworking the demographics
- 15 One of two state capitals to share its name with its state?
- 16 too long?
- 17 Combining Sections
- 18 List of Companies
- 19 Governor's Mansion on the Circle
- 20 Revisit the Naptown Debate
- 21 File:Robert Indiana's "LOVE" @ IMA.jpg Nominated for Deletion
- 22 Really now...
- 23 "Back here in 46201"
- 24 Consolidation with Marion County
- 25 Number of population (balance)
- 26 Pre-Consolidation Indianapolis
- 27 Indianapolis demonym
- 28 Glaring Omission from "Culture" Section
- 29 Indianapolis may not be the met centrally located state capital
Indianapolis needs a montage showcasing areas like the Conseco Fieldhouse, Lucas Oil Stadium, The Indiana Statehouse, The Soldiers and Sailors Monument and the General Downtown Skyline. Other similar-sized cities, like Jacksonville, Florida have montages fot their infobox pictures and its high time Indy had one too. Rhatsa26X (talk) 04:39, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
I agree completely. Any of the top 20 largest cities should have a montage. I beleive this page used to have one actually. Anyone know what happened to it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 04:00, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
I deleted this "The Indianapolis Daredevils were a professional soccer team based in the city from 1978-79 and played in the ASL, the second tier of American soccerm." becuase who cares about some soccer team from the 70's and if it really needs to be included we need to add other defunct sports teams from Indianapolis like the Indianapolis Racers, and the Indianapolis Clowns. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.108.40.206 (talk) 16:27, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
- I reverted, but you do have a point. We need to have a separate table with defunct teams, directly below a table with active teams. I will work on it when I get a chance. -- MeHolla! 16:52, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
"Racing Capital of the World"
Registered trademark of the Indianapolis Motor Speedway itself, and the title is emblazoned on its Hall of Fame Museum. Indianapolis as a city would only be called that by association, not from technical accuracy. --Chr.K. (talk) 22:45, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
- Also note that the Indianapolis Motor Speedway is not in Indianapolis. —Random832 17:37, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yes, but how many people go to the Speedway Indiana 500 every year? None. They go to the INDY 500. Still, good points~.Apwall21 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 04:46, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- Would putting the real population in the lead be OK, or is simple arithmetic addition considered original research now? —Random832 19:29, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
- Also!!! the folowing statement:
- "As of the 2010 United States Census, the city's population is 829,718. It is Indiana's largest city and, as of the 2010 U.S. Census, is the 12th largest city in the U.S., the second largest city in the Midwest (behind Chicago), the second most populous state capital (after Phoenix, Arizona), and the most populous state capital east of the Mississippi River"
- Have we forgotten Atlanta? it is bigger than Phoenix AND Indianapolis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsgladden (talk • contribs) 21:42, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
- I think it's very disingenuous to say that Indianapolis is bigger than Atlanta. You should use Metropolitan or Urban Populations when considering city size, not simply municipal populations. In the United States, most population centers are made up of several municipalities, particularly older, denser cities. If you use urban populations, Boston, Atlanta, Denver, St. Paul, Phoenix and Sacramento are all larger capital cities than Indianapolis. If you used Metropolitan populations, Austin and Columbus are also bigger capitals than Indianapolis. - Ntyler01mil —Preceding undated comment added 16:42, 18 April 2012 (UTC).
- All other municipal articles use the population inside the actual city limits when referring to the city population. There is quite a difference between a city and a metropolitan area, as metropolitan areas cover huge areas of land and can even encompass many large cities. If we started using metro populations where would one city end and another begin? Extermino (talk) 22:08, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
- Marion County (the county in which Indianapolis is located) has a population of 903,393 (2010 U.S. Census Reference). The Indianapolis metropolitan area has a population of 1,887,877 (2010 U.S. Census reference). The City of Indianapolis has a population of 829,718 (2010 U.S. Census Reference). There is no other population for the City of Indianapolis. Other cities, such as Atlanta and Saint Louis, have smaller city populations but larger metropolitan populations because those cities are independent from the outlying communities. In Marion County, most of the former outlying communities became part of the City of Indianapolis over 40 years ago. They are no longer separate entities. City boy77 (talk) 03:12, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
New State House Image
Hey, I have taken a new picture of the State House, and thought it would go better than the bottom picture here, but didn't want to put my own image in. Check out Image:Indiana_State_House_2.jpg , and edit it in if you deem worthy! Thanks! -- JTHolla! 01:21, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
- What bottom picture? Great picture by the way, don't worry about putting in your own pictures (see here)! HoosierStateTalk 01:39, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Festivals, Events, Conventions, Organizations
Reposting for discussion.
"The current title is too grab bag. There is no logical reason that organizations and festivals should be in the same place, unless these organizations are hosting these events. Again, I protest the use of Ethnic (too easy to offend and too hard to define) and add a protest of the use Cultural. It's all cultural. That's the title of section 7, so why repeat ourselves? Perhaps we could subsection this list into:
Conventions - Obviously Conventions are Conventions. Black Expo, GenCon, etc. Events - Those events centered for-profit in foundation as well as those events centered on a singular event such as the 500Festival and Circle City Classic. Festivals - Festival would be anything that was not centered around a single event, such as the Greek Fest etc. As for Organizations, this becomes hairy. Many organizations, though not claiming political affiliation, are political in nature. Many organizations, though not operating as businesses, are just as interested in maintaining income as many businesses. We should talk on this further..." Apwall21 (talk) 00:35, 31 December 2007 (UTC)Apwall21 (talk) 04:55, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- Looks good to me, you seem to know what to do so by all means tackle that task. Organizations could always have a sub section in Companies maybe? HoosierStateTalk 05:07, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- I went ahead and organized the sections into Conventions, Organizations, and Festivals and Events. Likewise, I got rid of Cultural Events and the Athenaeum picture that went with it. Now, Festivals and Events are really the same thing, as long as something revolved around one singular idea I put it there. I put all organizations and businesses already included in the Organizations category. I also put items in Conventions if it was specifically specified as a convention before I changed it. If you feel like something needs changing, go ahead and do it. And I am always welcome to help out. Jman 01:58, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
Good Morning Miss Bliss
- Apprently Wikipedia has blacklisted the site I was going to show you. Just go to google and type in "Good Morning Miss Bliss" and the site is the last one listed on the first page. HoosierStateTalk 03:06, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
Under Airports - the sentence containing "easing passenger access" needs attribution - it has been reported that although plane taxi times will improve with the new setup, actual delays will not be improved.
Under Highways, the summation into one sentence of the fiery issues around the extension of I-69 from Indianapolis to Evansville is worthy of further exploration, maybe another article, or maybe there's already an article that could be linked to.
The last few sentences in the second paragraph under Mass Transit are weak and unattributed - beginning with "However, an impressive collection...".
Under "People Mover" the impression is given that this is a widely used method for moving the public, whereas actually only 4 people are on it at any one time on average (personal obervation). The sole purpose of the People Mover was to give Clarian a cheaper way to run fiber optic communications thru downtown; the movement of people is secondary to this purpose. I confirmed this directly with the head of IT infrastructure of Clarian a few years ago.
Under "Transportation issues" - the header "Some complaints include" covers a panoply of items, all rolled up into a footnote to a search page on the local "alt" newspaper's website - this is a bit loose, and under-represents the battle of viewpoints - cars vs buses for the inner city vs buses out to the suburbs (which are overwhelmingly white) vs light rail out to surrounding towns (which are overwhelmingly white). The subsequent sentence that about "safe walking paths" is not attributed and as one who lives here, is generally incorrect...the major thoroughfares and shopping areas are truly hostile to foot traffic and bicycles, not the neighborhoods. My neighborhood doesn't have sidewalks and given the paucity of motor traffic, that was a good decision, assuming resources are finite. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.127.116.11 (talk) 03:15, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
"The subsequent sentence that about "safe walking paths" is not attributed and as one who lives here, is generally incorrect...the major thoroughfares and shopping areas are truly hostile to foot traffic and bicycles, not the neighborhoods. My neighborhood doesn't have sidewalks" Only in America would someone separate the place he gets his NECESSITIES as apart from his neighborhood. Sheesh. 18.104.22.168 (talk)
Despite this article's extensiveness, it seems at times to be unnecessarily long. Some of the paragraphs can be shortened down and/or branched off into separate articles in the future...just a thought. Thanks OopsMessage (talk) 23:01, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
There is currently a proposal on the table to amend the Wikipedia naming conventions for US cities to follow the AP Stylebook's suggested names. This would effectively move a number of US city articles currently on the list, so Indianapolis, Indiana would be moved to Indianapolis. To comment on this discussion, please go here. Dr. Cash (talk) 16:52, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
According to NOAA, the mean January temperature is 26.5ºF,  which, according to the traditional Köppen system places Indy right on the border between Cfa and Dfa. When the 1981-2010 averages replace the very cold Januaries of the late '70s with the much milder ones of the 2000s (especially 2006), the mean will increase to at least 28ºF, making Indy solidly Cfa according to the traditional classification. 
Which Köppen system does wikipedia prefer, the traditional one where D climates begin at 26.6ºF, or the modified one which raises the cutoff to 32ºF?
- The current standard of 32F. The boundary for that pretty much runs the Ohio River. CrazyC83 (talk) 00:41, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
Reworking the demographics
In this edit, I reworked the demographics bigtime: not because they were erroneous, but because (for some reason) they were primarily the statistics for the balance. For the source of the numbers I put in, see this early version, the original one with Census Bureau demographic data. Nyttend (talk) 14:33, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
An editor added this  sentence to the entry at about the same time he added it to Oklahoma City . I'm not sure I'd consider this case to be "sharing"—it's not quite New York, New York, after all—but I get the point. What do others think about the statement? Is it accurate? Is it encyclopedic? Shall we keep/delete/edit it? GreenGourd (talk) 03:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
- I am not going to check for accuracy, that is the job of the person that added it. I feel it has no encyclopedic value. Seeing as you and I are the only 2 people that have taken the time to look at it and express out opinions since May 2009 I am going to remove it.Naipicnirp (talk) 23:53, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
Someone put a tag saying the article is too long. It is 84kb and very long to scroll. Any objections to trying to tighten the writing and slightly shortening the article? User F203 (talk) 15:35, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
- The history has a sub article, condensing that should reduce size by 7k or so. "Law and government" and "Cultural features" would be good targets for sub-articles as well. Moving them to sub-articles and condensing their present version on this article would probably allow another reduction of 25k. —Charles Edward (Talk | Contribs) 15:48, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
- It is absurdly long as it sits now. Naipicnirp (talk) 23:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
- This is not absurdly long. In terms of readable prose, it is 48kb, which is large, but not absurd for a major city. There are already many subarticles. The article is in very poor shape, though, and I hope to work on it for the WP:Wikicup, but it is not absurdly long. Reywas92Talk 00:50, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
- It is absurdly long as it sits now. Naipicnirp (talk) 23:50, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
At first glance, there are no problems with the sections, "Recreation", "Cultural Features", and "Local Media". However, they are poorly defined and certain, if not many, of their subsections belong in both. These problems make it more difficult than it should to navigate the page.
I propose combining them into one section. Perhaps "cultural aspects", or something along that line. The three all really do have to do with culture in some way. Perhaps you could have "cultural aspects" as the main section, put "local media", and "recreation" as subsections of it, and then move sub sections and sub-subsections into one the appropriate places, either based on consensus or simply by if it needs to be moved or not.
List of Companies
Does not belong in the same sentence with Fortune 500 companies Are all of the companies listed Fortune 500? If not, perhaps we could have some balance in removal of other non-Fortune 500 companies. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:58, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- The following companies are listed but not part of the Fortune 500
- Republic Airways Holdings
- Simon Property Group
- Finish Line, Inc.
- Roche Diagnostics
- Technicolor SA
- First Internet Bank of Indiana
- Peerless Pump Company
- Emmis Communications
- Steak 'n Shake
- Clarian Health
- Sallie Mae
- Cook Group
- Rolls Royce
- Delta Faucet Company
- In light of the new ad-hoc criteria for inclusion as stated by both Detcin and Lord Pistachio, vis: "doesn't belong in the same sentence with Fortune 500 companies", I will be removing said companies unless another rationale can be provided. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:03, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
- Well, I'd agree that it isn't limited to just Fortune 500 companies. However, the companies mentioned in the article need to be significant to Indianapolis for such factors as revenue, number of employees or headquarters in the Indianapolis area, former status as a well known company that has been absorbed by a larger firm, etc. The Nussli Group meets none of those sorts of criteria with regard to Indianapolis (regardless of its significance elsewhere). As proof of this, a search of the Indianapolis Star archives returns no hits at all for Nussli Group, and even the Nussli Group website shows the only thing it's done in Indianapolis is to build temporary stands seating 22,000 for the IMS in 2007.Indyguy (talk) 04:32, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
Governor's Mansion on the Circle
A point should be made that the Governor's Mansion in the circle was never really the Governor's Mansion. In fact, it was under construction when the Governor (some say the Governor's wife) decided they weren't going to live there. It apparently sent vacant for a long time before becoming (if I remember hearing correctly) Town Hall and HQ for one of the fire companies. Prior to its construction, the circle was used as a meetings commmons. I am not posting this as an actual update, because I don't have any source citations. I just remember that info from an Indy history book I read. 22.214.171.124 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:45, 25 April 2011 (UTC).
Revisit the Naptown Debate
OK, I think it time to revisit the Naptown debate. I feel personally that it is a commonly used nickname nowadays. My understanding is that the nickname came about in the early 1900's because the city was so boring you could take a nap there. I also understand that the dominance of the KKK in the 20's caused the name to take a derogatory turn. But that only lasted until the 50's or 60's when the name became disused until revived in the 90's. Additionally, SO WHAT if rap songs make heavy use of the name? Is the definition of nickname 'An alternate name that all people agree to use.'???? Even if it is/was derogatory, it is still a nickname for Indianapolis.
Here are some current modern uses that clearly indicate the name is alive and is not being used in a derogatory manner.
- Lindy Stomp and vintage swing dance society Naptown Stomp
- Indianapolis reggae fan group Naptown Reggae
- Model railroaders Naptown & White River Model Railroad Club
- Local events blog Naptown Buzz
- Musical group Naptown Boogie
- Photo blogger Naptown Argus
- Local blogger Naptown Observer (Not updated since 2009 - Marked 'closed')
- Jazz group that caters to children Naptown Jazz 5
- Other Usage
- Author Caitlin Devitt writes article titled Shot in the arm for 'Naptown' for The Bond Buyer 26-Jan-2011
OK, so I'm going to stop here. But seriously, it is not a RARE nickname. It is not a BAD nickname... BUT IT IS A NICKNAME! 126.96.36.199 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 14:42, 2 May 2011 (UTC).
- This is interesting to me, as I was born in Indianapolis, went to IUPUI, and lived there on the east side of the city for 22 years. I have never heard of "naptown," but you have made quite a convincing argument that others have. -- Masamunecyrus(talk)(contribs) 03:50, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
- As far as nicknames go, Naptown is probably one of the more positive nicknames I've heard. If you really want to go for derrogatory, try some of the nicknames I frequently hear. They include Idiotnapolis, Moronnapolis, and Stupidopolis. Kinda makes naptown seem less derrogatory by comparason, don't you think. 17:40, 25 August 2011 (CDT)Rhatsa26X (talk)
- I just did a Google search on "naptown nickname indianapolis" (without the quotes) and got about 139,000 results. I don't see how one can deny that "Naptown" is a nickname for Indianapolis. Perhaps a lot of people have never heard it (all the more reason to include it). Perhaps it is felt by many people as derogatory - although the Wikipedia article on Annapolis, Maryland mentions it with no indication of being negative - it is any more negative than "Chi" (or "Chitown") for Chicago or "The Peg" for "Winnipeg" - anyway, if it is negative, so be it, we aren't supposed to be boosters, are we? Let's remove this ban on mentioning "Naptown". It is a nickname, and even if it is a rare nickname or a bad nickname, it is a nickname. TomS TDotO (talk) 18:13, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
- I notice that the entry "Naptown" has a redirect to Indianapolis. (BTW, shouldn't that be changed to be a disambiguation page, with Annapolis also being mentioned?) Meanwhile, nobody seems to be defending the ban on mentioning the nickname in the article on Indianapolis. TomS TDotO (talk) 15:23, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
- If further verification as to the status of "Naptown" as a legitimate nickname for Indianapolis is necessary, The Indianapolis Star posted what may be the definitive chronology of the term . The term has a long history and is widely recognized in the local culture—as has been expounded above—and has, in the wake of Super Bowl XLVI, been recognized by several major media outlets . If no counterarguments surface soon (especially given that a decent window of time in which to present such an argument has already passed), I feel the most reasonable course of action is to include "Naptown" among Indianapolis's "Nicknames". Scisdahl (talk) 07:05, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
Regardless as to the feelings that one may experience in the use of this nickname, the document, in it's current form, lacks support for its use. The other nicknames cited within the document are supported by additional references. The only use of "naptown" uses within this document are the "nickname(s) section" and a link to the "Naptown Roller Girls", a team that happens to reside within the city of Indianapolis. The Naptown Roller Girls page makes no reference to the nickname or it's history. This alone is insufficient support for use of the nickname within the document. I would suggest that the reference either be removed from use, due to lack of support within the document, or additional sources be add for it's support and clarification. Lomor_wp (talk) 12:11, 17 December 2013 (EST)
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- Well, no one has commented further on this, so I've removed the entire section since it really is nothing more than a list of trivia. The last version with the Indianapolis in Popular Media section is here. If a good source could be found, the information about David Letterman could be added to his article (if it's not already there). Movies about the 500 would be better placed in the Indianapolis 500 article itself. And the importance of basketball in Indiana culture is also significant, but probably more pertinent to the Indiana article. Indyguy (talk) 04:07, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
"Back here in 46201"
Consolidation with Marion County
There should be a brief historical mention in the demographics section that the city of Indianapolis and Marion County consolidated to form one city government in 1970. This would explain why it appears Indianapolis's population jumped 56% during the 1960s. To put the consolidation into perspective, if Baltimore City and Baltimore County ever consolidated, the city of Baltimore's population would swell to 1,450,000, surpassing Philadelphia.--MarioSmario (talk) 02:34, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Number of population (balance)
- 820,445 population in the City of Indianapolis (balance) on April 1, 2010 Census.
- 827,609 population in the City of Indianapolis (balance) on July 1, 2011 Estimate. this one
- 829,718 population in the City of Indianapolis on April 1, 2010 Census.
- 839,489 population in the City of Indianapolis on July 1, 2011 Estimate.
- 903,393 population in Marion County on April 1, 2010 Census.
- 911,296 population in Marion County on July 1, 2011 Estimate. this one
I am not sure different number of population about balance?
- While the majority of Marion County is considered Indianapolis, some parts remain independent and are included in the county's population but not the city's. See Speedway, Indiana as an example. City boy77 (talk) 01:46, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
- I added an explanation in the "demographics" section. The city's population and the county's population are different. There are four communities that are independent of Indianapolis, but they are all in Marion County: Speedway, Lawrence, Beech Grove, and Southport. Rosalina523 (talk) 20:37, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
While not necessary for an effective page - though, it'd be nice to have this in the page somewhere if anyone can find it - does anyone have any pre-consolidation maps showing the city limits of old Indy? Does anyone know the exact square mileage either of the census previous to the consolidation or even the square mileage of Indy upon the consolidation if any annexation had occured between the previous census and the consolidation? --Criticalthinker (talk) 06:54, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
- Anyone ever able to find a map of the city just prior to Unigov consolidation in 1970? --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:46, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
There is a demonym listed for people from Indianapolis: Indypolitan, or Indianapolitan. This was added way back a comment on The Urbanophile in 2011. Google searches don't bring up many promising results showing it either to be an official or even an accepted demonym of the city's inhabitants. To my knowledge, there is no demonym for someone from Indianapolis--only Hoosiers, from Indiana. -- Masamunecyrus(talk)(contribs) 06:51, 29 September 2013 (UTC)and still sticks. Has anyone ever heard of this demonym? I've never heard of it outside of
- "Indianapolitan" is listed in the premium unabridged version of Merriam-Webster's dictionary. So it seems to be "correct", but I agree it is very rarely used. Brian the Editor (talk) 03:51, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
Glaring Omission from "Culture" Section
Ladies and Gentlemen, there's no "Music" component to the "Culture" section, and especially no "Jazz" section. The city was a regular stop for touring jazz musicians, and there was a strong, to say the least of it, local scene. It produced J.J. Johnson and Wes Montgomery. Will someone familiar with the jazz scene in Indianapolis Please rectify this? Tapered (talk) 04:16, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
Indianapolis may not be the met centrally located state capital
I didn't edit this article yet, or any other article, but I think Hartford, Connecticut is actually closer to its state's geographical center (in the town of Berlin) than Indianapolis is to Indiana's geographic center (in Hendricks County.) Trenton, New Jersey, even though it is on the Pennsylvania-New Jersey state line, is also just a few miles from its state's geographical center. In all fairness, however, Connecticut and New Jersey are much smaller states than Indiana. 188.8.131.52 (talk) 14:54, 25 May 2014 (UTC)