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Items in the following list are proposed:[edit]

edit·history·watch·refresh Stock post message.svg To-do list for Individualized Education Program:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:
    • Write section "Definition of individualized"
    • Expand IEP Components section
    • Procedural requirements section needs rethinking. Where this topic should appear in the article's hierarchy is unclear.
    • Services section has several stub sections that need to be written
    • Add a reference for Section 504 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1973_Rehabilitation_Act Pachai 17:08, 16 August 2007 (UTC)


    One thing wrong[edit]

    What I don't like about this how the classified people and person with a speech impairment should not be under the same rules as some one with a metal or physical impairment.downtowndontay


    Well, you may not like it, but that indeed is how it works. 69.29.207.109 (talk) 19:50, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

    Name dispute[edit]

    There is no such thing in IDEA as an "Individualized Education Plan". An "IEP" is an "Individualized Education Program".

    No their certainly is, trust me, I've been in Special Education a majority of my life and an Individualized Education Plan is indeed real. Deathawk 21:02, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

    The IEP is commonly referred to using "Plan" instead of "Program." In the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act it refers to the mandated IEP as a "Program." I changed the name of the article to reflect this and added reference to the mistaken full name of an IEP. Assawyer 04:21, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

    Cleanup[edit]

    I added the {{cleanup}} tag to the article because I believe the article to be written in a "how to" not an encyclopedia style. There is a lot of good information, it just needs to be reworked. I will attempt to do some additional work on the article in the near future. Assawyer 04:21, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

    I agree with assawyer. I have no doubt that the information in the article is correct, but

    a) there are not enough citations

    b) the tone is normative. For example "An IEP claims to be designed" and "It is meant to give the student a chance" Comments like these reduce the article's objectivity.

    Katharine908 (talk) 14:57, 5 November 2010 (UTC)

    pronunciation?[edit]

    how do most pronounce this?

    like "eye-ee-pee"? or like "ee-ehp"? or like "yep"?

    thanks – ishwar  (speak) 23:58, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


    "Eye-ee-pee", it's an initialism, not an acronym. 69.29.207.109 (talk) 19:51, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

    Pronunciation?[edit]

    yes, like "eye (long I)-ee (long E)--Pee (long P)" you're welcome, jeannaf

    Reference Sources[edit]

    I am surprised that there is no reference to three other superb resources:

    1. www.wrightslaw.com (Pete and Pam Wright's website with any information you need about IDEA and the parents rights and responsibilities, with many current and past topics and how to write your child's Individualized Education Program (IEP); 2. www.fcsn.org (The Federation for Children with Special Needs); 3. www.ldonline.org (Learning Disablities On Line website).

    These 3 sources of information have proven best for our family and our IEP information requests for our child. Its called Individualized Education Program, because the goal is to develop an entire program for the child, which includes education, therapy, other services, and transportation needs, etc. It is an entire "program" for the child's life away from home. jeannaf

    Information misplaced[edit]

    IEP Creation section includes a couple of subsections that are not part of developing an IEP; rather, they are the steps in qualifying for special education services. This detailed information information should really go into the special education US article, but it's appropriate to include a summary here. smoran 11:10, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

    Misconceptions section[edit]

    I'm not sure what this section is supposed to be about, or how the content currently in the section relates to the section title. How is someone intentionally failing an assessment a misconception? Could someone please clarify the intent here? Thanks. smoran 21:06, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

    Revised Components of an IEP section[edit]

    Here is the original information so that it is easily accessible if more changes need to be made.

    • Accommodations necessary in class
    • Subject areas impacted by the student's disability
    • Goals and objectives to be achieved during the course of the IEP (1 year or less)
    • Standardized testing accommodations
    • Transportation services
    • Schedule modifications
    • Service delivery with necessary personnel
    • Parental or guardian concerns
    • Team's vision statement

    Rosmoran 22:27, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

    Removed Misconceptions section[edit]

    I requested clarification on the intent of this information on June 8 of this year. Since there has been no response, and since I cannot revise the text without understanding the editor's intent, I'm removing it.

    Best, Rosmoran 04:34, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

    IEPs in Canada[edit]

    Does anyone know the legal basis in Canada that establishes the IEP?

    I'm thinking that the Canadian law probably isn't identical to what is required by the IDEA in the US, so it probably isn't enough just to cite what this type of document is called in Canada. The rest of the article is specifically about what the IDEA requires, which is of course specific to the US, so we should also provide specifics about the Canadian law (if we want this article to cover this topic for Canada).

    I'm not sure whether it makes sense to include the legal requirements for both countries in the same article. There is an entire set of articles about IDEA, of which this is one. I don't have a strong opinion about how this should be handled, but we do need to make a decision so that we can implement a similar structure for the other articles that would also apply.

    Are there any Wikipedia articles containing info about the Canadian special education laws?

    Do we want to cover detailed legal issues for two countries in the same article?

    Best,

    Rosmoran 02:06, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

    I don't think that Canada has a national law for special education. I believe that each province/territory has a different law. WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:54, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

    _ ------ ----------------------- _ -------------------_----------------------_------------------_ IEP depends On the Province and School System such as public/Private —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.102.57 (talk) 20:01, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

    Examples[edit]

    I think the section on "Services that may be provided to a child with a disability" would benefit from more examples of program modifications that are common in IEPs. Does this seem like a good idea to anyone else? Does anyone have ideas about specific examples? WhatamIdoing (talk) 07:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

    need help with my child[edit]

    my name is diane <PERSONAL INFORMATION REMOVED> iam confused about my son education pleas i need all your help thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.246.155.90 (talk) 03:19, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

    I'm sorry, this isn't an appropriate place to make requests like this. It's unwise to publish your home address and phone number on a website, and I have removed it from this page for your safety. Rather than trying to get advice from a stranger (who is probably completely unqualified and certainly knows nothing about your son's specific situation), why don't you talk to a teacher at your son's school? WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:33, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

    Call your local school or board. Please do not Agree 100% with the teachers cause teachers look for the easy way out —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.102.57 (talk) 20:03, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

    HUGE problems, content missing, article tone is wrong[edit]

    Just got turned on to this article, and one major omission, and problem with how the article is written, is that it completely omits any mention of gifted students, and is written as though only disabled students get IEP's. This is a MAJOR problem that needs addressing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.134.146 (talk) 06:00, 17 June 2009 (UTC)

    True, in a way. But the key, in part, is in the section on elibibity for special ed services: the disability or condition must be deemed to have an impact on the education. At least in the state where I taught special ed, in effect, if any given student was able to achieve a passing grade without any additional services, that student would not be placed in special ed and hence would not receive an IEP. There were classes for gifted students; they were not considered to be "Special Ed" and the teachers involved were not have, to the best of my knowledge, any special qualifications or certification. This is not to say that a gifted student might conceivably have academic difficulties arising from his giftedness, to the point of failing, and hence need special ed services. 69.29.207.109 (talk) 20:09, 16 October 2009 (UTC)

    It is actually completely true. IEPs are for gifted or disabled students. I happen to be one of the many gifted/talented students who has IEP. It has nothing to do with our intelligence negatively affecting our learning, but more to take full advantage of our learning capabilities. When I began my IEP in elementary school, it aided in setting up specialized work for me throughout the school year. Now, it just discusses how I am handling advanced classes, which classes I will enroll in the following year, my goals for that year, and my goals for college. By the way, this article is mostly garbage. Someone, please fix it. --174.126.212.214 (talk) 13:32, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

    This Is WRONG![edit]

    Don't you think this is kinda bad? Saying a kid is smarter then another. This is like saying whites are better then blacks or the other way. This is wrong they don't even ask the kid! --Russianamerican1 (talk) 22:37, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

    IEP diploma[edit]

    Is an IEP diploma the same as a certificate of attendance, and should that article be linked? It may be that the IEP diploma is tied to IEP goals in some states, but I believe in NYS an IEP diploma is not tied to those goals and is sometimes called a certificate of completion. I have no expertise or opinion, but maybe someone can clear this up.LaTeeDa (talk) 20:59, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

    Wording fixes[edit]

    "An IEP is designed to meet the special educational needs of one child, who may have a disability, as defined by federal regulations." I can ask about this at work, but I don't think "may" is correct. A student is labelled with a disability only for the purpose of setting individualized goals, which is what the IEP does. No disability, no IEP. --Strangesad (talk) 01:59, 28 October 2012 (UTC)