Talk:Infantile speech

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using the most common term[edit]

Could you please point me to a non-obsolete usage of the term "infantilism" in speech? Google has only 8 listings for speech infantilism, all of which seem to be a coincidental pairing of words. In contrast, pedolalia has 154, infantile perseveration has 418, and baby talk has 1,410,00. BitterGrey (talk) 06:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

speech ifantilism. As for google count, it is a yet another example that it is utterly unreliable and may be used only people who know what they are looking for. In our case you have found zillions of hits for what is described in "baby talk". - 7-bubёn >t 07:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

The references seem to suggest that this is another word for phonemic disorder. BitterGrey (talk) 06:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Nope. Phonemic disorder is age-synchronic disorder. "Infantile perseveration" is defined as retardation of development. Anyway, it is quite possible that the term "infantile speech" now gradually falls in disuse, similarly to many other old medical terms: neurasthenia, hysteria, infantilism, etc. I am not an expert in the area, and it is not unreasonable to think that today it is understood that the "perseveration" is just preservation of the "phonemic disroder". I suggest not to do any guesswork and wait for an expert to enlighthen us beyond what I have found myself. - 7-bubёn >t 07:33, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not an expert in speech disorders either. I'm questioning the use of an adjective as a noun, and the noun's use as a modern term: A white car isn't necessarily a whiteism. Generally, terms with this derivation fall into disuse, replaced by more specific terms. However, it doesn't look like either of us are asserting that this is the current, modern term. Perhaps we could move the list of other obsolete infantile-ism and infantilism terms back to infantilism (obsolete) and leave infantile speech on that list? BitterGrey (talk) 16:01, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

any rationale to keep this alive?[edit]

I see nothing that should keep this term out of Baby talk. Countervailing opinion welcomed.
Weeb Dingle (talk) 22:45, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]