Talk:Inferno (operating system)

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afterwards inserted heading: about Divine Comedy[edit]

The operating system was "inspired by the literary heritage of Dante Alighieri (particularly the Divine Comedy)"? What kind of sense does that make? I challenge anybody to tell me what it was about Dante's philosophy, politics, writing style or anything else that inspired this operating system. And it's great that it was "particularly the Divine Comedy" that inspired the programmers -- since the Inferno is the first book of the Divine Comedy -- but what influences, I wonder, did Dante's other works have on it? Note to Wikipedia editors: It's great that you're going to college, really. But don't let it go to your heads.

I don't think it was any of these beliefs of Dante that inspired the OS, but as the article says, the names used in the OS were inspired by his works. Not necessarily a philosophy, politics, or writing style. -- Northgrove 08:44, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
(Rursus inserted heading here, in order to get it under the normal sectioning system.) Said: Rursus 12:57, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Cleanup[edit]

The Plan 9 Ancestory section desperately needs a cleanup. It contains a lot of bias and is generally low quality. I will leave it up to someone with more knowledge of Inferno to do the editting, or possibly removing, of that section. --FaeroSogue 23:33, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

Given that the section is basically "Inferno is Plan 9 except that it uses Dis", I lean towards removing the section.
IMHO the whole article needs to be scraped and rewriten from scratch. --Lost Goblin 05:58, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
I recognize none of these criticisms in the article, so I deem the cleanup tag being obsolete. Said: Rursus 06:37, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

OS.[edit]

Okay, if it can run as an application, does it have an "Exit" option? Just asking. RocketMaster 04:03, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

What kind of "question" is that? It is an application like any other, how applications are killed depends on the host operating system. --Lost Goblin 22:29, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
What answer is that, really? Maybe you don't know? Said: Rursus 13:02, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
The correct answer (dealing with the maturity level of Inferno - one topic in this discussion page - and RocketMasters question directly) is this: the application wm/wm is not that mature that it can be exited by any menu choice yet. It can be killed by a shell command. Regarding the maturity of Inferno: it seems, in my superficial test, to be pretty stable and usable for development. The applications like wm/wm, file manager etc. are as yet very primitive and in an early stage, but the project seems to be more advanced than for example ReactOS, as regards to the OS itself, primarily because of it's simplistic philosophy in comparison to ReactOS. Other environments that are most relevant in comparison to Inferno are Jini/Java and MicroSoft.net, of which I know very little. Anybody else? Said: Rursus 20:35, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Unix?[edit]

Under the See also section this article links to Unix, was this operating system based off of Unix? --24.172.195.239 19:42, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

it was created by the same people and at the same place where unix was born. And more importantly it shares the same fundamental philosophy(that same philosophy Unix lost long ago). --Uriel 18:55, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Comparison with Java[edit]

I've removed the sentence "However, Limbo's virtual machine, unlike the Java Virtual Machine so far, can be run on bare hardware without a host operating system." I can immediately think of a couple of systems that interpret Java bytecode without an OS: Dallas Semiconductor's TINI and aJile Systems' microcontrollers. I know there are others too. Orourkek 09:23, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

see also Savaje Technologies' system. they're particularly noteworthy because they were started by a few guys from Lucent's failed Inferno Business Unit when it  ; i believe they were seeded by Lucent and given a copy of the then-current inferno source. AnthonySorace 22:14, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

An ad for Inferno?[edit]

From back page of IEEE Internet Computing, Volume 1, Number 2, March-April 1997 I think this technology is amazing and should be mentioned (I'm not a good writer though)

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The text: Introducing (drumroll) Inferno networking software... a new Bell Labs innovation. First operating system that lets all kinds of devices chat or share info with each other over any network (Internet, telecommunications, LANS, et al). Now the video game can talk to the computer; cell phone can access e-mail; voice mail via TV, etc. (Really) Download Inferno from Lucent home page today - develop apps a.s.a.p. Could change the way you work - all together. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zephyr103 (talkcontribs) 03:34, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Ehhm... forgotten: Your garden rake can at last send equivoc emails to the kitchen fork!. Said: Rursus 13:00, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for File:Lucent 1997 Ad.jpg[edit]

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BetacommandBot 19:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Vaporware?[edit]

Re: "Hosted or Virtual OS ports include: Microsoft Windows" and "Inferno can also be hosted by a plugin to Internet Explorer", I cannot find any such port or plugin anywhere on the Vitanuova or Google code sites (no downloads, no offer to sell me a copy). I old like to see a citation backing up the claim that the windows port or IE plugin actually exists. 72.251.91.224 (talk) 22:29, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

It's for IEv5. I think there was a more recent GSoC project to do a Mozilla plugin. Stuart M (talk) 11:14, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I don't think you looked very closely. Browse the inferno-os tree and see /emu/Nt. That contains both the Win32 port and the IE plug-in port. AnthonySorace (talk) 02:12, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Relevance and Repetative[edit]

The later part of this quote was stated earlier in this article and why are these members of Bell labs mentioned when talking about Inferno? "Ken Thompson, Dennis Ritchie and Douglas McIlroy, members of the Computing Science Research Center at Bell Labsat Bell Labs, who designed and developed the C programming language to build the operating system Unix. Programmers at Bell Labs went on to develop the Plan 9 and Inferno operating system, which were engineered for modern distributed environments" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.47.92.40 (talk) 18:11, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and vandalized that for you. 50.122.87.219 (talk) 22:56, 11 October 2013 (UTC)

Ports[edit]

External Links:Ports has a link to http://code.google.com/p/inferno-ds/. The last edit of the Wiki at that site is 2010 March. Inferno-DS is inactive.

Also there is a link for Inferno-Kirkwood where the last update is 2010 September. Inferno-Kirkwood is inactive.

Also a link to http://wiki.laptop.org/ for the OLPC XO. Last update is 2009 March. OLPC Inferno is inactive.

Similarly, Inferno-Openmoko is inactive.

Thankfully a small group of devotees continues development on Intel compatible PCs.

If I change the heading to "Ports, Currently Inactive" or "Ports, Inactive since 2010", will anyone object? Thanks, ... PeterEasthope (talk) 15:37, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

Yes, I will object. Porting software from one platform to another isn't a continuous process. The authors of those ports have completed their work. Calling them active or inactive doesn't make much sense. 50.44.67.1 (talk) 00:11, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
I won't, but they'll all be most likely quite inactive since Inferno itself is a dead system with no new upstream in over five years. 91.154.87.201 (talk) 12:15, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
You are uninformed. Recent changes to the Inferno operating system 50.44.64.80 (talk) 20:18, 21 March 2012 (UTC)