Talk:Internet meme

OMG Ponies

Who thinks it would be useful to add detail about the meme "OMG!!! Ponies!!1!"? Is that meme large enough to feature? Has it spread outside of the internets enough to classify as a phenomenon?

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• Google Search
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-- Rossj81 05:30, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, let's get this clear. This is NOT the list of internet phenomena. Take whatever little joke that the kids are loving nowadays over to THAT article.

-- User:Okrainets

An hero

An hero should be featured, it is a very important meme. If you do not feature an hero meme on this page I will become an hero. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.68.51.103 (talk) 17:55, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

unheroic anon is unheroic, gbt 4chan :-) 204.52.215.13 23:50, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

what the hell is an hero ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.62.223.87 (talk) 19:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

Short Version : Kid commits suicide, someone posts grammatically incorrect message to kid's Myspace page calling him "an hero", 4chan runs with it. "Be an hero!" turns into another way of saying "Kill Yourself!" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.135.89.138 (talk) 17:30, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

It's dumb and unimportant, and death threats (including your own) are a blockable offense. JuJube (talk) 18:13, 19 February 2008 (UTC) Yes, duckrolls, all your base, and leekspin are all unimportant as well. I guess they aren't memes either.

for the record, an is correct in front of an H. (some origin in the cockney-style pronounciation of words) --trulyelse02:44, 9 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.155.221.34 (talk)

"An" is only correct in front of an H when the H is silent, as in honour, honest. Words with a defined H sound, such as hero, use just an 'a'. 87.194.215.23 (talk) 03:53, 23 October 2008 (UTC)

"an hero" is a major meme referring to the act of suicide. It originates from the death of a kid named Mitchell Henderson, who apparently killed himself after losing his iPod. As could be expected, people immediately jumped on that as a source of immense amusement (if you don't get why, you need to familiarize yourself a bit more with the Internet "community"). On a dedication page, a friend wrote something like, "he was an hero", and.. here we are today. But until there's reliable third-party sources, we've got nothing (much like Candlejack and Pedobear). And actually, anonymous editor who's too lazy to sign his own posts (IT'S FOUR TILDES FFS), all three of those either have their own articles or are referenced majorly in related articles.  Aaron  ►  18:32, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Oh, and according to 18th-century linguistic norms, the phrase was indeed once "an hero". But that's irrelevant since  Aaron  ►  18:32, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

I'm aware of what "an hero" is. I'll take your word for it that "an hero" was correct as a phrase in the 18th century. I was merely correcting Trulyelse in that not all words starting with 'H' can be correctly preceded with 'an'.212.183.134.209 (talk) 01:26, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

this meme has nothing to do with 18th century. It's just a meme. If you don't get it, be an hero. --Ratstail91 (talk) 02:28, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Clarification on usage of the indefinite article: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v290/Siddles/a-an.jpg

I don't think the Internet meme article is the place to list every widely-used word or phrase with an interesting internet-based etymology: doing so could result in an excessively long and confusing article. A person who is unfamiliar with the phrase "an hero" would do better to consult Urban Dictionary which is a more appropriate medium for such information.

Real suicide is not funny. Ever. Contains Mild Peril (talk) 05:57, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

yes, it is 188.222.41.105 (talk) 21:48, 20 March 2011 (UTC)

Millhouse vs. Jack Spicer

On 3 January 2007 00:52, Heyjokerman changed Millhouse is not a meme to JACK SPICER IS NOT A MEME. While there is some evidence of the Jack Spicer variant, the Millhouse version is far more prevalent and appears to have been the version started on 4chan. Judgement by Google.

I suggest the change be reverted to Millhouse. -- Rossj81 12:41, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

Google searches are not reliable sources.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 05:45, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Millhouse is not a meme. However, Millhouse is not a meme is a meme. Millhouse is not a meme is a meme is a meme as well. Millhouse is not a meme is a meme is a meme as well is, thankfully, NOT a meme. 99.164.109.224 (talk) 07:48, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Extremely well put, 99.164.109.224|.  Aaron  ►  18:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

yeah, what he said. --Ratstail91 (talk) 02:29, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

'what he said' is a meme. 217.251.167.132 (talk) 10:41, 10 August 2011 (UTC) (Here we go again.)

Needs Rewrite

While I agree that the subject matter is culturally significant enough to warrant a Wikipedia article, it could stand to be rewritten. As it stands, the article comes off as very amateurish and not up to Wikipedia's standards. I'm going to tag it for now, and if no one gets around to rewriting it I'll start work on it soon. 'Shoe' McCartt 10:09, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

"become a meme"?!?!

this parte "If they are repeatedly posted and recycled by the internet community until they become a sort of inside joke, they become a meme." is nonsense, every idea that can be copied is already a meme.

Osias 17:22, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

I agree, this seriously needs a rewrite and then closed,too many people messing around with the article. (Wiggly 03:47, 25 February 2007 (UTC))

• • I disagree, as this has happened. I know ED can't be a reliable source, but a lot of memes started because people start spamming popular sites like 4chan. It goes beyond being copied, to being copied and put EVERYWHERE. IE. Something that's going to end up in forum signatures, image boards, avatars, and forum posts, ect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.91.28.221 (talk) 19:49, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Help

The template inappropriate tone template was in the wrong spot, so i moved it, but now it dosen't seem to be working properly. I'm fairly new, so I'm unsure as to what I'm doing wrong. Is this is an innapropiate place to ask this question?

Sign your post, then we'll talk about mercy. 71.80.3.109 (talk) 03:27, 29 November 2009 (UTC) (wowaname)

Image removed?

How does an example of an internet meme not contribute to the article? Why has it been removed? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SeriousCat (talk • contribs) 01:49, 22 February 2007 (UTC).

A picture of a cat hardly qualifies as a meme. A screaming mouth open on a baby, maybe. A child, saying little memes as it goes to sleep, maybe. Catch the picture?

No, I don't. This meme was originally captioned "I are serious cat, this is serious thread." And after it's usage incresed, other versions showed up like the one I added to the article.

This text appears in the article:

Evolution of Internet memes

Internet memes usually start when someone (usually a forum member), posts a phrase, a picture (usually edited on photoshop to make it more humorous), a flash animation, a song, or a video. They are almost always jokes, the subject of which can be virtually anything. Many common subjects include current events (Michael Richards' racist rant), a funny picture, a stupid or grammatically incorrect phrase (usually taken from a forum), a movie, TV show, or video game, or websites. If those who view the joke find it funny, they will often repost it elsewhere and/or edit the joke in order to add their own twist before reposting it. A good example of recycling a joke is the "All Your Base Are Belong to Us" video on Newgrounds.com, which features a massive amount of pictures with the words "All your base are belong to us" placed in the picture using Photoshop. When the jokes are reposted enough so that the majority of the websites users are aware of it, it becomes a meme. SeriousCat 02:31, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

(Minor reformating so the whole page is not taken up by a sig). Disagree. Putting a picture of a cat (probably yours) hardly qualifies as a meme. Ronbo76 02:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

It IS NOT my cat, it is a WELL KNOWN internet meme. The reason my username is the same as the picture is my real name was taken, and one of the reasons I joined was to upload this picture and improve this article. I'm new to having a userspace and interacting with other wikipedians, but I think it's possible you are assuming bad faith. SeriousCat 02:45, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

No, I did not assume bad faith. If I had thought bad faith, I would have issued you a standard template message indicating my concern. I stand by all my comments and edit summary comments

I don't know who's cat this is, and I don't have a cat. I have personally seen this meme on several different message boards.

I also just got these by typing "Serious Cat" into a search engine..

http://forums.ytmnsfw.com/showthread.html?t=31487

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=146496227

here's one a friend found for me..

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/08/nothing-new-on-xbla-this-week-but-there-is-ms-pac-man/ SeriousCat 03:01, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

You still do not have consensus on the picture and should be adding back until you do. Ronbo76 22:56, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

The other persons' only reson for removing it was that it was "probably my cat". It is NOT my cat, and I do no see how this is a valid reason to remove it. There is no consensus on removing the image either. This is a well known internet meme, and removing it reduces the amount of knowlage contained in this article. I believe I have presented evidence that this meme is in use, and it's removal as an example goes against the principles and policy of Wikipedia. - SeriousCat 23:04, 22 February 2007 (UTC)

It was and am I who still is opposed. I did not say it was your cat; that was your inferral. Until consensus is reached, one revert rule general Wikipedia karma is to not re-do (or in essence, revert) back an edit. This causes edit wars which are not helpful. Just because the picture exists on other self-posted sites does not make it meme. A meme is something that becomes lasting or legendary also like Kilroy was here or signs posted stating "George Washington slept here". The cat does not rise to that level.

You DID say it was "probably" my cat. It's a matter of record. ^ I quote: "a picture of a cat (probably yours) hardly qualifies as a meme". Just because you aren't plugged in enough to know about a meme, dosen't mean it isn't one. I have provided ample evidence. Click the third link I posted. This is obviously a meme that is in use. I merely wanted to put the image as an example of a meme, and improve the article, and you have provided NO valid arguments as to why it shouldn't be there. I give up. This isn't an encylcopedia, it's a snobby social club. I will no longer attempt to edit this article. - SeriousCat 00:04, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Wow. Well, someone put the image back, and I would like to point out that it wasn't me. - SeriousCat 01:30, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

Redirect

I redirected this page to List of Internet phenomena, as it was completely duplicative of that more comprehensive article. Krimpet 18:25, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

They are not the same thing. A meme does not become a phenomenon until it has been seen in the real world

According to virtually every source I can find, as well as the definition at List of Internet phenomena, they are exact synonyms. Krimpet 14:54, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

Well now there seem to be two articles with pretty much the same name but different case linking to different places: Internet Phenomenon and Internet phenomenon.(Jamesdlow (talk) 07:47, 18 February 2008 (UTC))

I just changed that so they both link here. I suppose if it were phenomena instead of phenomenon it could go there. Anyway, both articles link to each other. Also, the division between the two articles is now that one is a list and the other is the main article; we're not really trying to distinguish between the terms "meme" (which is used in an inexact sense, not the scientific definition) and "phenomenon" (used to mean "popular sensation" or something like that). Wikidemo (talk) 08:16, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Rewriting article

I am in process of rewriting the article as proposed. It had been deleted entirely after a complete rewrite was proposed, and after an editor noted that the article was completely duplicative of list of Internet phenomena. I agree that "Internet phenomena" and "Internet memes" are nearly identical terms (I say "nearly" because not all suddenly popular things on the Internet are memes in the strict sense, but for all intents and purposes, they are). However, the other article is a list with very little descriptive information. To satisfy the encyclopedic mission of Wikipeda the primary article should discuss the thing itself, and not merely be a list of examples. I've chosen to create that article from scratch rather than massively edit the existing list, which is semi-protected as it is and which would end up stirring up controversy. Best to do what we have elsewhere, which is a main article and a subsidiary article that is a list. I chose "Internet meme" as opposed to "Internet phenomenon" for the article name because that is a slightly more common usage as per google, and most of the sources of any quality I have found call it a meme rather than a phenomenon. Either way one should redirect to the other.

To preempt any speedy deletion or reversion attempt I'm attaching a hangon tag for now. Sorry to save this before its time but I'm building up the internal redirects and links, which is hard to do without having an article in place. I'm working on filling it out and adding some references to bring it up to a solid stub article. Memes are such a big thing on the Internet it would be nice if people could help improve it at least to a "Start" or B-class article. Wikidemo 22:25, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

I suggest you use a personal sandbox in the future, the hangon tags are not meant to be used in this manner. SGGH ^speak! 22:30, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

All done now! Thanks for the suggestion. Wikidemo 05:10, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Huge amount of misinformation on this page

• How does an "internet meme" refer to "a much broader category of cultural information" than a meme? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mkbnett (talk • contribs) 04:15, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

-Memes are memes regardless of popularity or success.

-Memes are memes regardless of amusement or entertainment.

-Digital data, eg videos, websites, images, etc, are not memes. They do not pass from one mind to another; they generally stay on one server. EG The idea of sharing the video is a meme, quoting lines from it are memes, but the video it's self is not a meme. (You could possibly call some of them a ‘memotype’, however even this doesn’t always work as you can’t store a whole video or whole website in your mind.)

Most of later part of the page is either miscellaneous or just irrelevant info. I would correct this page but it seems to be entirely based of these misconceptions. I think it would be better just to delete this page as it can be summed up in one line: "Memes can spread via the internet." If they are particularly notable memes then the meme page can mention them. Xep 06:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

I disagree with any proposal to delete. It claims its own notability, it is notable, it is widely discussed, and it is cited so please don't. I wrote most of the article and I stand by it. Rock solid, if rather tentative. It is cited and supported by what major publications say about Internet memes. As I say, the word is used in three senses: (1) the thing that is passed from person to person, in this case a digital file; (2) the subejct of the content, i.e. the joke itself (which is what you are probably thinking of as a meme), and (3) the phenomenon as a whole -- i.e. the fact that 1/2 million people just heard the joke is an incidence of a meme. The word "virus" is also used in the same 3 senses: the dna arrangement, the individual instance of it, and the outbreak. Describing the various classes of memes is certainly useful and correct -- particularly PR and advertising, which self-consciously claims itself to be generating Internet memes and gets covered as such by the press. This article was separated out from the list of Internet Phenomena for a reason discussed in the talk page. Wikipedia is mostly an encyclopedia of articles about things, not a list of things. Perhaps you are objecting to the application of the term "meme" to Internet phenomena. That's not for us Wikipedians to decide, because the term is so used. It's a fair criticism that what is called (and what I wrote about as) an Internet meme is not a true meme, just as there is criticism (discussed in the meme article) that memes themselves are an empty concept. If so, why not add a section like "criticism of terminology", if you can find some good citations. If not, you are doing what some semi-scientists do when they claim that white, or black, is not really a color. Fine. But please don't delete the article on white or black from Wikipedia in response. Wikidemo 06:40, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

You only need to read any book that gives the definition of 'meme' to see that it is not compatible with the definition (the one given here at least) of 'internet meme'. I agree that it's become popular to call fads/popular things 'memes', but that's just a common misunderstanding. If 'internet meme' has become popular enough that it is now its own phrase with a different meaning, then you need make it clear that they are not memes in the traditional sense. This is not POV, it is a fact that we have to two different definitions, ie 'internet meme' (Popular online fads) and 'memes spread via internet' (Normal memes in the true sense of the word). Xep 07:09, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Very interesting point, and perhaps a distinction worth being made in this article. An argument that some or all of what are commonly referred to as "Internet memes" are not really memes is worth making - to avoid opinion, POV, and original research-like issues you would have to point to a secondary source that says so rather than simply making a case here based on primary sources. Then the question becomes whether real memes on the net are a distinct sub-class of memes that is worth writing about. If so they deserve their own article, or we could divide the Internet memes article between true Internet memes, and things that are known as Internet memes that are not real memes. It would be like writing an article about, say, Parmesan cheese. You could divide that article between the true cheese from Parma that meets all the criteria, versus a style of cheesemaking the world over that also carries that name. The other possibility is that there isn't really anything special about memes when they happen to be on the net. One analogy might be warriors. There is a common term called "road warriors" that covers a distinct class of people. They are not really warriors. However, there is no real sub-class of true warriors who happen to be on the road and as such "road warriors" in the sense of trained career fighters who happen to be in a passenger vehicle at the time is not a point worth making. I hope that's reasonably clear. I'm fine with and encourage you to add all the wisdom you want to this article. That's what Wikipedia is for -- make it better! Just, please, don't eviscerate the article about the pop culture phenomenon that's called an "Internet meme." It was a step in the right direction to separate the article describing the phenomenon from the other article that serves as a list of various people's favorite examples. Thx. Wikidemo 09:35, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

These last two posts get to the heart of what I personally see to be the primary issue on this page, which is that there is a misunderstanding between what a "meme" is, meaning a basic unit of cultural information that Richard Dawkins proposed to exist in his book The Selfish Gene (and to the best of my knowledge his argument has not achieved the degree of success in academia that say evolution or even string theory has), and what an "internet meme" is, that is a fad that is transmitted over or otherwise engendered by the internet and the existence of which is doubted by nobody who has ever encountered one. Just ask Chuck Norris. I'm going to edit the introduction to make the faddish nature of an internet meme more apparent and also mention that the name is inspired by but has little in actuality to do with the idea of a meme.--BlackAndy 02:34, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Over 9000

Some anon tried to request an article on "over 9000" (see e.g. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBtpyeLxVkI or http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Over_9000) but failed. Only reference on Wikipedia is in Cosplay. I don't care what you leute do with it, I just drop it here on the talk page and you can discuss amongst yourselves. Shinobu 06:34, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

Absolutely not. This is a meme limited to the chans. It is virtually unknown otherwise.

True, but it's also used on Encyclopedia Dramatica —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.129.239.143 (talk) 05:21, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

False! I have never been on 4chan and I know about that, it has been spread person to person, and I personally have seen it on Runescape. Kilshin (talk) 15:28, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I don't get that one. It's not very well written, it's too much an in-universe type of thing, but it should be clarified for us, mortals. --Surten (talk) 05:26, 21 March 2009 (UTC)Surten

• It's simply a quote from DragonBall Z. It became widely know when the number '7' was made to wordfilter to it on 4chan. Similar to the "That was easy!" line from the move Office Space being used as a marketing campaign by Staples. Also, what was the point of throwing one German word in the middle of an English paragraph? (leute) --Crimson Bleeding Souls (talk) 20:58, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

• It's on the WP:HOLICTEST. --TLB —Preceding unsigned comment added by T3h 1337 b0y (talk • contribs) 20:20, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

The stupidity level of this discussion is over 9000. This is a very legit meme, and should be mentioned on this page somewhere, like on a list of memes.--Ratstail91 (talk) 02:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Really, does it even deserve its own article? In my eyes it had died, and it has no historical significance at ALL. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.53.47.29 (talk) 16:17, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to say that even though I don't go on 4chan or encyclopedia w.e. you typed, I have seen OVER NINE THOUSAND on different websites. I've seen it typed in forums and also in youtube videos (i.e. youtube poops)

I know someone'll probably think "oh well we don't know who you are, so it's original research" but it has been used pretty often outside of those 2 websites. --91.105.92.33 (talk) 21:29, 6 December 2009 (UTC)

I dissagree, It is very well one of the best known memes out there. I have seen it used on clothing in stores, ads for products, and the like. of course, this is one of many memes that should be here, but this is one of the more important ones. I'd sign this, but I forgot my username and password.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.75.237.194 (talk) 00:56, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Chocolate rain

I just heard this term, and plugging it in Wikipedia, I get this article, Internet meme. Anyone know what Chocolate rain is? And if it's noteworthy enough to redirect, shouldn't there be some explanation somewhere here of what it is? Thanks. --TallulahBelle 00:38, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Same here, and I'm alost positive that "Chocolate Rain" or Tay Zonday at least had a page on here at one time that must've been deleted. I also think that if those pages were scrapped, there should at least be a mention of those memes on the page to which the terms redirect. This is probably the wrong page to redirect to anyway, considering that there's an entire category of internet memes on Wikipedia that would work better. --67.65.58.180 11:06, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

It was deleted. I remember from the talk page of that article that there was a consensus growing to keep it, even thought it was a a candidate for deletion. If some angry person didn't like it having an article that's fine, but it should at least be listed on the list of interent phenomena. Tay Zonday's been on G4, Opie & Anthony, and others, not even because of his other videos (turbotax, his rickroll, etc) which are popular as well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwTZ2xpQwpA

Chocolate Rain, which is by Tay Zonday, contains the well known meme, "**I move away from the mic to breath in." --ANormalUsername1 (talk) 17:50, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Please review Wikipedia:Verifiability for sourcing requirements. Youtube is not a reliable source. If it deserves its own article, it deserves its own article. The place where these things have been linked isn't in this article, it's in list of Internet phenomena. There's a discussion on the talk page. Somebody finally found a newspaper article about it so it seems likely to reappear. Wikidemo 23:22, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

That's not the kind of source they were talking about, sheesh. Howdoesthiswo 19:24, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

User:Zomgwtfpwn

This person made some pretty questionable edits to the page. Please be on the lookout. Sanjayhari 07:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

oh noes! itz a m3m3!

OMGWTFBBQPWNZOMGWTF... I herd you liek mudkipz... DESU DESU... meroooow neko neko... (insert adjective) (insert noun) is (insert same adjective you used before)... pool's closed... WEEABOO WEEABOO...1000 get... V&...b&... in b4 (insert something)...

some examples of "chan" memes I've seen as of late.

204.52.215.13 23:55, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

"Blog Meme" is not the same as the "Meme"

While utility of memetics is still debated in academic circles, the word "meme" evolved a very distinct meaning on blogs. Moreover, most of the examples given on this page do not represent "blog memes" - they are NOT just pages or pieces of information that spread a lot across the internet, but a very specific form of it, usually in a form of a series of questions and a number of subsequent bloggers who are "tagged" to answer those same questions on their own blogs, tagging new people etc. Thus, it is semi-organic and semi-designed - the first person decides which part of the blogosphere to target first and the subsequent players then spread it to other blogospheric nodes. Sometimes a piece of text or a piece of code is used for tracking the spread of the meme. Here are some examples of recent memes (just those I did over the last couple of years, but you can find many more if you start looking around): http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2006/11/blog_memes.php

http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2006/12/year_in_review_meme.php

http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2006/12/hanukah_meme.php

http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/02/i_am_a_sucker_for.php

http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/02/beauty_not_just_featherdeep.php

http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/04/why_do_you_blog_meme.php

http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/04/why_do_you_blog_meme.php

http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/08/eight_random_facts_meme_take_2.php

http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/09/cool_animal_meme.php

http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/10/the_pharyngula_mutating_genre.php

http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/10/i_rank_number_one_on_google_me.php

http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/10/happy_hallomeme.php

http://scienceblogs.com/clock/2007/11/meme_of_four_again.php

Psychological explanation?

I came (OMG DID U REALLY JUST WRITE THAT?) to this article (indeed, I typed "Internet meme" into the search and clicked "Go") to see if anybody's made some sort of explanation for why certain phrases, pictures, and audio clips spread like crazy through the internet, though there's nothing of the sort here. I can understand why this article is relatively short; in reading the discussion, it was fairly recently resurrected.

Has there been any case where somebody tried to figure out WHY internet memes are popular? It stands out to me in that it's a major exception to the commonly-understood idea that jokes become less funny when told multiple times. Rather, in this case, their appeal seems to COME from how they are repeated. Personally, this kind of repetition is ad nauseam, but those who are into internet memes, from my experiences, not only never grow tired of seeing the likes of Chuck Norris or cat photographs or whatnot, actually finding it FUNNIER the more they see it, but they tend to personally attack those who openly admit they're tired of these things.

Where does the appeal of an internet meme come from? Is it a desire to spread knowledge to other people, a wide-scale and distilled version of telling a joke? Does it derive from a sense of being accepted, in that the people who display memes are showing to other people that they, too, are aware of the subject of the meme? Is the repeated display of a meme a projection of the poster's immediate thoughts in that something that stands out will freuqnelty reappear in one's head?

By the way, I've seen the "Over 9000" thing put up pretty much everywhere. No messgae board I've been to recently has managed to completely evade it, and I see it all over the likes of YouTube. I'm not too clear on the distinction between a chan meme and a regular internet meme, as the lion's share of them that originate from 4chan seem to have spilled all over the Web. Ron Stoppable (talk) 05:28, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, all of these questions have been answered. Read the larger theory of memes.

I've always thought of memes like in this: each person on the interwebz (interwebz refering to people on 4chan, ED etc. rather than legit sites yahoo etc.) as cells in a body; anonymous as the person using that body, and the memes as anon's thoughts. If that made sense to you, you're the only one who understands it. --Ratstail91 (talk) 02:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

The entire internet?

A website like 4chan hardly classifies as the entire internet. 70.89.165.91 (talk) 22:18, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

for some people, it is. --Ratstail91 (talk) 02:40, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

History?

First blog meme? Evolution of the concept? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.142.60 (talk) 06:24, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

Sorry, we're a work in progress. You're welcome to research this and add any reliably sourced results to the article. Wikidemo (talk) 18:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

Also note, your originality isn't welcome in wikipedia. So stop with your research. 67.160.164.94 (talk) 02:42, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

I change the wording describing the Hampster Dance as "one of the first widely distributed Internet memes", as it seems only to date back to 1998. (Has mid 1990s become an ancient era beyond human memory and before recorded history?) -- costing the internet hundreds if not thousands of dollars RIGHT NOW, Infrogmation (talk) 23:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I think there was a viral vid (past around on a vedeo tape) from before the internet or interwebz, but i can't think what it was. --Ratstail91 (talk) 02:42, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

overkill?

I was brought to this page from the text on another page (goatse.cx entry). Is anyone else bothered by the fact that an overused neologism is being used in an encyclopedic article? Neologisms make good wikipedia entries, but they do not belong in articles. They require time to settle. As well, there are words that can be overused without even being neologisms, which would be the case for meme, were it a standard English word. For example, if semiotics were as vogue as Dawkins, we might start every wikipedia entry with "X is a signifier for the referent Y." While true in the model it assumes, it is biased in style and approach. Such bias makes the encyclopedia clumsy, dated, and unstable. Meme suffers similar overkill. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.249.102.31 (talk) 20:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

If 3/4 of the way through the previous century ( 1976 ) is what you consider new ( "neo" ), I wonder if you've left similar notes about radiation, or how Kosovo ( which only declared independance in 2008 ) is far too novel to be included in an encyclopedia. And when the term meme was coined, the internet was still aarpanet; certainly you're trying to get the internet article removed as a neologism! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.142.60 (talk) 01:24, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

It's clearly a notable phenomenon. Whether the term used to describe it is a neologism or not it's very common: 250,000 google hits[1] and 500 google news articles[2]. Memes in a general vernacular or technical sense more so, obviouly. We set out to describe the state of knowledge in the world - if the world uses new terms that sound odd, I think the complaint is about the world, not the encyclopedia. Wikidemo (talk) 20:36, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Huh?--Ratstail91 (talk) 02:44, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Forced Internet meme

• IMO this section is pretty stupid, and should either be rewritten to something less resembling an insipid Internet message board post, or removed entirely. JuJube (talk) 07:09, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

I think the section is the same as the self-promotion sectuib. "forced" does not seem to be a real term. The point is that some memes are created on purpose as a matter of marketing. It's best to give this article a lot of room because many new editors enjoy it. No harm done if people add a few things for a while...just cut it back if and when it gets out of hand. Wikidemo (talk) 07:23, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

At the very least, the Milhouse crap has to go. JuJube (talk) 08:12, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

The Milhouse one is also mentioned at Metameme, I'm not sure whether it's more appropriate there or whether it also should be removed from that page as well. --Angelastic (talk) 08:32, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

A proper meme is one that began on it's own, right out of the void(Numa numa, All your base). But a forced meme is either created for publicity, of from someone just trying to get famous(Snakes on a plane, holeman).--Ratstail91 (talk) 02:46, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

This term is more likely coined by KYM. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.104.127.1 (talk) 01:47, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Terry tate

Is Terry Tate an internet meme? It started as a Superbowl commercial but ended up with a significantly online-only presence (apparently only two commercials were aired on TV, and only once each). WLU (t) (c) ^{(rules - simple rules)} 13:42, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

Milhouse is NOT a meme!

In case anyone asks, Milhouse Van Houten is NOT an Internet Meme! --Bushido Hacks (talk) 02:58, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

ORLY!? -Raziel (talk) 19:58, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

YARLY! -Crimson Bleeding Souls (talk) 21:17, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Stop doing that. the lulz a brilliant, but ur gonna get pwned by admin. Or moot.--Ratstail91 (talk) 02:48, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Milhouse is a meme. http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/10740/original/2d3a7.jpg http://cdn0.knowyourmeme.com/i/8476/original/74.jpg 76.178.228.63 (talk) 21:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)

"Milhouse is not a meme" is a meme, however milhouse without any mentioning of "not a meme" is not a meme by itself

Just because someone got a post and it ended with the right number, does not mean it is a meme :p Jameilious (talk) 10:43, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

123 Profit / ??? Meme

This meme is extremely pervasive on social websites such as digg & reddit. It is usually in the form of:

1. (Take part in an action of some sort)
2. (Take part in a related action to the first)
3.  ???
4. Profit!

The original form appeared on Gnomes_(South_Park_episode). There is some discussion on that talk page as well. There is also a definition on urbandictionary.com (non-reliable source): [3].

The "Gaucho Theory" is apparently the theory that "creating an internet meme" could be what "???" refers too after a man sold a drawing of a spider on ebay [4][5] for thousands of dollars. It was brought up by a reddit user on November 20, 2008 and discussed on this page: [6].

Unfortunately, I could not find any reliable sources on the 123 Profit meme or the Gaucho theory so far that could be used for a Wikipedia page. --Macrowiz (talk) 18:57, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

To the second commenter: I know you are just trolling/joking. However, I am going to pretend for a moment that you are not. I will start by sayiing that the comments made on that post on reddit are all trolls/jokes. THE WHOLE POINT OF THE MEME, the joke at its heart, is that you HAVE NO IDEA what the ??? could possibly be. let us examine the original:

1. steal underpants
2.  ????
3. PROFIT

there is no conceivable way (outside of japan) where 2 could have any possible rational meaning. that is why it is funny. if 2 meant something, if ??? had some actual meaning, then there would be NO comedy inherent to the meme. your immediate and transparent lack of understanding of the meme, its overall meaning, its source, and really the entire cultural basis behind such memes makes you an obvious "outsider," n00b, etc. you are one of the people who hears a joke and then, laughing, says: "hahaha, its like [insert exact meaning of the joke] hahaha" which immediately kills the joke for everyone else (who respond: "yes [idiot], thats the joke. Thanks") To Macrowiz: the episode is South park Season 2, episode 18 "gnomes" released on december 16 1998 (it is WAY older than wikipedia, lol). that is the source, that is the reference.

is this a meme?

i always thought that meme's included the type of thing that used to be sent around on emails and is not popular on livejournal, myspace and facebook. a sort of questionarre, such as the one that asks you to randomize your music library and use the songs that come up as the answers to questions about yourself. are these things memes? thanks. --69.108.218.164 (talk) 22:22, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

• No. That's called chain spam. And don't you mean 'questionnaire'? --Crimson Bleeding Souls (talk) 21:12, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Neologism means a single word

...I'm pretty sure. So internet meme is not a neologism, it is a phrase. Meme by itself is arguably a neologism, though as pointed out above, 1976 is actually quite a long time ago (linguistically speaking). Hadrian89 (talk) 21:36, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

You forgot AYB!

All your article are belong 2 ME!Ms dos mode (talk) 04:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC) Engrish, is fun. SRY?! AYB is a dying meme, Someone has to do something to bring it back. CPR, Iv, RSPCA, anything to keep it out of the history books (assuming that someone writes history books about dead memes). Do u really want AYB to be the new milhouse? --Ratstail91 (talk) 03:00, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Dawkins image with made-up text

I have removed the image of Dawkins with overlayed text "I invented Memes. LOOK IT UP!". Another editor has removed the same image from Meme, and the issue is briefly discussed on the talk page. In brief: it is not encyclopedic to overlay made-up text as if the subject of the picture had made the statement.

The history seems to be that File:Richard dawkins lecture.jpg was copied from Flickr for use here with caption "Dawkins lecturing on his book The God Delusion, June 24, 2006."

Two months ago a user overlayed the "I invented..." text onto the above image in File:Dawkins-Memes.jpg and added it to Meme and Internet meme. Many web sites make parodies by overlaying text onto a picture, but I do not think such examples should appear in encyclopedic articles. There was a claim that images of Dawkins with overlayed text are themselves an example of a meme (an image macro). If that is true, we need a source, and we can't make up our own image which is definitely not a meme (self-fulfilling original research). Some alternative image could be found if needed. Johnuniq (talk) 00:44, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

examples

How do u think, examples is needed in the article? --91.124.124.133 (talk) 01:00, 23 June 2009 (UTC) orly, sparta, etc?

I don't think an encyclopedic article needs examples in a list like those recently added. Instead (if desirable), an appropriate place in the article should be found, and the information placed in a sentence. In support, at WP:MOS we read "Do not use lists if a passage reads easily using plain paragraphs". Another issue is that there is a never-ending list of phrases that could be added to the article; however, the article shouldn't be a repository of what people think are examples of Internet memes (we should use reliable sources). Note also that "This is sparta" is already in the article, and that the issue of adding stuff has been discussed on this page. I'll see what others think and may return later. Johnuniq (talk) 02:06, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

Unsourced

I suggest that we pay more attention to the comment in the wikitext at the top of the article:

Please do not add examples of Internet memes to this page, except where they are sourced and crucial to explaining what an Internet meme is. If you want to discuss a notable Internet meme, write an article about it and/or add it to the article List of internet phenomena.

"Sourced" means a reference with a secondary source where an independent analysis concludes that the item is an Internet meme. Original research is not allowed on Wikipedia, so it is not sufficient for an editor to add a link or phrase and claim that it is yet another example of a meme. Johnuniq (talk) 03:03, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

pronunciation

"(pronounced /mɛm/, mème)" - why, when the word "meme" itself is pronounced /mi:m/? Lfh (talk) 15:44, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

The word "meme" was invented by Richard Dawkins who said that "meme" should rhyme with "cream", and is intended to sound like "gene" (see the reference given in the first sentence of Meme). Johnuniq (talk) 01:52, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

That's what I thought. It was wrong ("mem") so I've corrected it. Lfh (talk) 09:59, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

I added a note about pronunciation in the article, as that might be helpful to readers. ZionistConspiracy (talk) 05:54, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Internet meme list?

Is there anything approaching a list? I mean, limecat is a deleted article, and I'd love to see a short paragraph like the following, for memes that I've heard of as well as those memes I probably have missed:

Limecat
"limecat is not amused" was an internet meme dating back as far as 2004, when seen on cncden.com. Even though generally recognized as a pomelo, the intellectual montage of a "lime" on a "sour puss" caused widespread popularity. Searching the image that appeared on limecat.net in 2005 using tineye.com yields 170 results, with this cat having varied captions and side-by-side comparisons to individuals famous and otherwise.

--Jndrline (talk) 21:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC) personally i would like to see an article on the tails doll meme, you know, where if you tag super sonic with him in sonic r or listen to can you feel the sunshine backwards he will kill you at midnight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edfreak9001 (talk • contribs) 11:26, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Misinformation

My main problem with this article is the "see also" section. Viral youtube videos are not analogous with memes. I also don't believe that Bloody GIR should be on this list.--129.186.13.209 (talk) 16:17, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

I've pruned the list - too many entries duplicated those in Category:Internet memes, which is already included. Mindmatrix 17:18, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Merge?

Should this page be merged with list of internet phenomena? Or maybe moved to Internet phenomena for easiness. I never knew this page existed until just now. Kausill 02:14, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Crazy Lady yells at skateboarders

Hi, users of Wikipedia!

I've been searching for an article on the Crazy Lady meme for a while, now, and I can't seem to find anything on the Crazy Lady. Here is a link of what I mean.

I'm very interested in what her name is. And, like I said, there should be an article about the incident - there are a LOT of videos on that on YouTube! Is this impossible, however, to do, or are we able to make an article?

I've only got this much info:

• One of the photographers is Andrew Cleary.
• The incident is situated somewhere in Canton, Ohio.

So, anyone who has info on this meme is more than welcome to reply to this message, eh! Thanks! --205.211.16.254 (talk) 17:02, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Does this meme meet the requirements set out at Wikipedia:Notability#General notability guideline ? If not, it is doubtful that we would host an article for this. –xeno^talk 17:10, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes. The meme does meet the requirements. That is why I am baffled as to why NO one has thought of asking for the meme's article, other than me. --205.211.16.254 (talk) 17:32, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Can you link me to the reliable sources that dsicuss this meme? –xeno^talk 17:38, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Yes, sir, the link that links to the video is in this section, just click on the word "link". However, I've also got a link to the video that has an interview with Mr. Cleary: as seen here, this is an interview with him. That's about it, though.... it has information about the incident, and the YouTube link shows the whole video. I hope this information is sufficient. --205.211.16.254 (talk) 19:44, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Without "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject"; this would not be considered appropriate for inclusion. While the video arguably comes from a reliable source, it does not discuss the memedom whatsoever. –xeno^talk 19:57, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

The comments on the YouTube video page clearly makes it memeable. --205.211.16.254 (talk) 20:10, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

At the very least, though, the meme at least deserves some mentionning somewhere in the memes list. --205.211.16.254 (talk) 20:21, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

See the FAQ at Talk:List of Internet phenomenon. It seems that without a reliable source that discusses the memedom, it will not be mentioned in the list. –xeno^talk 20:24, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Maybe it doesn't need to be a meme article - but, it certainly deserves to be an article on Wikipedia - in my opinion. Are we able to do that, instead of making a meme article, or does the same stuff apply? --205.211.16.254 (talk) 20:50, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

It would be a stretch with the TruTV video as the only reliable source. Maybe in the Aggressive inline skating article... –xeno^talk 20:56, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok. It seems appropriate. I just hope I didn't cause much crap to happen, eh. --205.211.16.254 (talk) 20:59, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Not at all. By the way, you should consider creating an account. =) –xeno^talk 21:00, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok. Uh, I've got a question. Could you make the account an admin if I made an account? --205.211.16.254 (talk) 21:03, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

← No, I don't have ze powerrrrrr and also admins are typically expected to have a bit more tenure. See Wikipedia:How to pass an RfA. –xeno^talk 21:05, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Ok. I guess I'll have to be patient, then, eh? --205.211.16.254 (talk) 21:09, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Indeed. And create an account of course =) –xeno^talk 21:11, 23 November 2009 (UTC)

Imma Firin Mah... Wait, what?

I noticed that the link to Shoop Da Whoop redirects here, yet there is little to no information about it on the internet, let alone Wikipedia. Can someone post more information on it, or at least give me a link? Thank you. Arwingpedia Member Canis Shepalute - Official Wikipedia Signature: 65.13.84.34 (talk) 08:47, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Recent edits

I just changed all cases of 'internet' to 'Internet' I was unsure which one is correct as it is a grey/gray area. I chose Internet due to there being more occurances in the text.

I also changed a few things but nothing too major, I am now going to try and find some sources for things

Post here with any problems rather than just reverting

Jameilious (talk) 10:58, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Know Your Meme

Is not a A website dedicated to archiving memes, gathering statistics to establish notability and illustrating many variations of memes. It is, in short, a website full of plagiarism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.24.115.32 (talk) 21:51, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Indeed, several of KYM's articles are plagiarized from ED. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lousit (talk • contribs) 02:25, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

And that's what makes it fun.Nightvisiongoggles (talk) 18:53, 4 November 2010 (UTC)

I bet these are written by /b/tards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.104.127.1 (talk) 01:43, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

See also

Recently (yesterday and tweaked), Encyclopedia Dramatica was added to See also. I'm not going to get totally exercised about this, but I oppose the use of Wikipedia to promote ED (ED itself is fine and I wish them all the best, but there is a tendency for fans to insert links here wherever possible). Accordingly, I removed the link with edit summary "ED is not described in its lead as focusing on memes". I was reverted with edit summary "Internet culture is mentioned in ED's lead, and memes are a part of that culture".

I still maintain that the actual ED site and its article here give no particular indication of an interest in memes in any encyclopedic sense. Furthermore, Internet culture does not mention "meme" (apart from a See also link to Internet memes). Would anyone care to express an opinion on whether ED should be retained as a See also item here? Johnuniq (talk) 01:48, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

I dislike Wikipedia's spam flter. It makes it so difficult to discuss articles on ED. As a result, you have to enter this information (in bold) in the search box or in the address bar. ED indeed has a special interest in documenting memes. In fact, it has a entire portal solely dedicated to memes (Portal:Memes) As seen on Portal:Memes/secondbreakdown and in Category:Memes, ED has nearly a thousand articles on memes. Sample meme articles include Alignment, Limecat, and Bayeux Tapestry. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 02:13, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Anyone denying that ED is a fool and in denail Lousit (talk) 02:33, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

If you google advice dog, pedobear, longcat, numa numa, Chris Crocker, rickrolling, any big meme you can think of, you will see ED in the first page of results. It is a stretch to say ED isn't a well known site concerning memes. 24.22.249.25 (talk) 04:21, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not too keen on the categorization of ED/WP80 as "dedicated to memes" - I haven't spent much time on the latter, but ED is pretty clear on not being a meme repository. Not to discount their documentation of them, which is pretty extensive and probably the best online, but it's kind of like calling Wikipedia a website dedicated to hot-button political articles - it's there, sure, and an important part of the encyclopedia without which it wouldn't really be complete, but it's not a really well-liked part and it creates a hassle for everyone. ZigSaw 15:14, 20 July 2010 (UTC)

I somehow overlooked this revision. The stated reason was: remove encyclopedia dramatica from external links due to sexually explicit content without proper filtering. Not a professional reference to be utilized. I disagree with the logic of the removal since it linked to the Wikipedia article rather than directly to the site, and the Wikipedia clearly states that ED isn't safe-for-work anyway. I'm not going to restore the link to the "See also" section until we have consensus, especially since Zippy reopened the issue.

ED is a wiki dedicated to the documentation of Internet culture and drama, and its topic is board enough for the inclusion of memes. ED's documentation of memes is well-documented within the media (use CTRL+F and search for "meme" in the Wikipedia article). Resources state that ED is a good resource for memes. WhatPort80 is a sister project to ED. WhatPort80 was created in order to address the "public relations" issues that ED had. WhatPort80's mission is to document Internet culture in a way that doesn't produce offended readers. Like ED, WhatPort80 document various facets of Internet culture, including memes. Unlike Wikipedia, ED and WhatPort80 aren't "encyclopedias of anything and everything". I believe that those wikis are specific enough for inclusion within this article. Memes are a major facet of those wikis, and I don't believe that Wikipedia should belittle that fact.

--Michaeldsuarez (talk) 00:36, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Parenthetically, it may be added that "address the public relations issues"? More like "have a site without goatse on it because nobody wants to run ads on ED anymore and the site's about to keel over from lack of funds" ZigSaw 13:03, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

True, that as well. --Michaeldsuarez (talk) 14:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

Confusing article

I'm concerned that this article only brings more confusion about the concept of meme. If i should very briefly summarise what is said here it would be something like : "internet meme are funny links". I don t think that is really satisfying as there is clearly nothing memetic about it.

This article subject is internet phenomenom. The fact that they are also called "internet meme" should be mensionned as the fact that this is most of the time a misinterpretation of the concept of meme (wich i happen to use from time to time for the sake of the conversation, but wikipedia has other standard) but i think the article shloud be renamed or merged with the list of internet phenomenom.

Mo osska (talk) 12:08, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

Sources

• Makice, Kevin. "10 Internet Memes You Can Share With Your Kids – And a Bunch You Can’t." Wired. June 18, 2009.

WhisperToMe (talk) 19:50, 22 March 2011 (UTC)

Concrete examples of spreading

I think it would be useful to devote a section of this page to recognizing some of the media through which memes spread, to give readers an idea of how such quick proliferation can happen (e.g. ytmnd, 4chan, canv.as etc.). Xaq2892 (talk) 17:51, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Consider this...

I think that the internet meme is more known in the present internet-based culture, and should be the redirect page of the search of meme. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MagicGallade (talk • contribs) 18:46, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

In an encyclopedia, meme needs to be about the encyclopedic topic (and it includes a "main article" link to here). Wikipedia is not the right place for information on current internet memes. Johnuniq (talk) 23:39, 24 November 2011 (UTC)

9gag

removed the link to the 9gag article at "see also". somebody is really trying hard to force it... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.114.157.99 (talk) 18:04, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

9GAG

Why did you delete the link tot 9GAG? Maybe not important enough? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wout159 (talk • contribs) 22:11, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

9GAG again

Dear 9gag users! Would you please be so kind and stop forcing your website in this article? This is an encyclopedia and not advertising space for your favourite site! 9gag is just one of many websites using internet memes without even being notable in creating any. So why does it deserve to be mentioned in this article?

And btw, I read this: http://9gag.com/gag/1536907

So please, just stop. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hardring (talk • contribs) 23:41, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

first world problems

Hello editors of the meme page. I stumbled across the first world problem page a day or two ago. It has problems of its own. Initially I thought it was a non-notable neologism per wp:neo. There's at least one reliable source that references the term that an IP editor just added, so maybe the term is more notable than I thought. But I find the subject distasteful and can't bring myself to work on the page. Also, I don't know much about meme notability. I thought y'all might want/be willing to take a look at it. AgnosticAphid talk 17:05, 26 January 2012 (UTC)