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Confusing stuff[edit]

The International Criminal Police Organization, or INTERPOL, is a non-governmental organization


Legal personality Governmental: Government agency

etc.

When did the USA join?[edit]

Founding members in 1923 were Austria, Belgium, China, Egypt, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Italy, the Netherlands, Romania, Sweden, Switzerland, and Yugoslavia.[1] The United States government joined INTERPOL in 1938.[2] Britannica is not the only written source of the 1938 date; despite what Interpol says on its website. It's not enough to just take they're word for it. Other sources should be required.

Map needs updating[edit]

Non member countries include republic of china, which is clearly shown on the map LlamaInPyjamas (talk) 00:43, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

Only Crimes that Overlap Several Countries[edit]

The article mentions that "Interpol's constitution forbids its involvement in crimes that do not overlap several member countries" and provides a link where such a thing is never said (http://www.interpol.int/public/icpo/default.asp). I checked Interpol's constitution (http://www.interpol.int/Public/ICPO/LegalMaterials/constitution/constitutionGenReg/constitution.asp#art3) and there's no mention to that neither. Furthermore, Interpol's involvement in Julian Assange's hunting in the UK due to a rape accusation in Sweden proves that this is not the case. Maybe I overlooked something? if not, I'm deleting the reference tomorrow. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.152.134.145 (talk) 03:56, 28 December 2010 (UTC)

I deleted the reference (BTW yesterday I forgot to log-in, but it was me)

Name[edit]

The article first presents the name of the organization as "The International Criminal Police Organization" then later points out that it "adopted its telegraphic address [Interpol] as its name in 1956." Shouldn't the first sentence be changed to something like: "Interpol, formerly known as The International Criminal Police Organization..."

If the name was changed to Interpol then the name is no longer The International Criminal Police Organization right? The name "The International Criminal Police Organization" doesn't appear on the About INTERPOL page of their website or seemingly anywhere else on their website.

Also on their website (see the About INTERPOL page), they consistently refer to themselves as "INTERPOL" in caps. Shouldn't we do the same?

According to these pages of theirs the official name was until 1956 "International Criminal Police Commission" (ICPC) and was then changed to "International Criminal Police Organization - INTERPOL" (ICPO-INTERPOL or just INTERPOL). Dysii (talk) 07:33, 20 October 2008 (UTC)

Fictional Characters[edit]

What is the point of the list of fictional characters who have been described as Interpol agents? The description seems to mean little in many of these cases, and they add nothing to the reader's knowledge of Interpol. They do not seem to me to be appropriate to an encyclopedia article on Interpol. I suggest they be deleted. Deipnosophista (talk) 19:05, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

Interpol seems to be treated as a noun, by your terminology, throughout Interpol's official website (www.interpol.int). In other words, nowhere on the site is it in all caps. I've updated the article replacing all instances of "INTERPOL" with "Interpol." Bulldogged 03:05, 15 June 2006 (Pacific Standard Time)

INTERPOL? I believe it is an acronym, not a noun. WikiTony 05:48, 28 January 2006 (UTC)


Is there an interpol magazine or journal published? Benvenuto 10:23, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

I thik it stands for International Police.

I still don't aually understand what Interpol does.--Mullon 19:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)


interpol black list =[edit]

I've been sent a supposed "black list" from Interpol, Brussels. Anyone know if there is really such a list distributed by Interpol?

I understand that there are "notices" put out by Interpol; seven of them to be precise. Of these, one is a "Black Notice."

  • Black Notice: To seek information on unidentified bodies.*

The seven types of notices and their objectives are:

Red Notice To seek the arrest or provisional arrest of wanted persons with a view to extradition.

Yellow Notice To help locate missing persons, often minors, or to help identify persons who are unable to identify themselves.

Blue Notice To collect additional information about a person’s identity or activities in relation to a crime.

Black Notice To seek information on unidentified bodies.

Green Notice To provide warnings and criminal intelligence about persons who have committed criminal offences and are likely to repeat these crimes in other countries.

Orange Notice To warn police, public entities and other international organizations about potential threats from disguised weapons, parcel bombs and other dangerous materials.

INTERPOL-United Nations Special Notice Issued for groups and individuals who are the targets of UN sanctions against Al Qaeda and the Taliban.

However, if there is such a thing as a "Black List", would you please let me know how I may aquire a copy for myself as I am writing a book which includes Interpol & takes place, in part, in Belgium and I wish to get the details right. Thanks much. TAWS —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.197.205.35 (talk) 09:37, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

expansion?[edit]

should we focus on expanding this article, in say, the direction of modern interpol activities, or something? it seems ridiculously sparse to me.Locriani 01:49, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

I agree. It should also have a little more in-depth history. Ideally, there should be a separate [International police cooperation]] article that includes, but goes beyond Interpol. Just a thought - i know, i know, 'why don't you do it yourself?' If I get time. Let me know if I'm on the black list ):D Bobanny 18:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
Heres a start, can anyone include this stuff from their website? Itll prolly require a table, which imm not that good at. http://www.interpol.int/Public/icpo/governance/sg/history.asp Xlegiofalco 04:52, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Somalia[edit]

Somalia is listed as a member on Interpol's website, however, they have not had a functioning central government since 1991 and is currently in the throes of civil war. I think we should have Somalia removed from the list of member countries until the situation there is clarified and a recognised government established. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.152.170.254 (talk) 10:17, 10 December 2006 (UTC).

I agree. Seeing as the political climate in Somalia is unclear, we should remove them or at least list their interpol membership status into question 76.17.127.64 13:48, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

So is Somalia not a member now? It is nearly seven years later since this section was edited. Do Wikipedia editors decide which nation is, and which nation is not, a member of Interpol? — Just asking, Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 03:19, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Yes check.svg Done — Referring to our own article, I see the Somalian flag in our table. — Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 03:30, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

Non-member countries[edit]

I believe that countries which are not members of Interpol should also be listed to make this website as comprehensive as possible. This also adds neutrality to the article. Removing such a list only gives the impression that the article in question is biased in favour of Interpol and that non-member countries somehow don't deserve to be listed. Also, listing such countries gives the reader the chance to discover these countries and why they have not signed on to becoming a member of Interpol. Hunstad2 07:57, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

interpol[edit]

I was under the impression that Interpol's headquarters were in Zurich (tel. : +41 44 216 7111). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.249.45.40 (talk) 17:56, 12 January 2007 (UTC).

Nope. It's been in France for 60 years. Sorry if you're another francophobic. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.191.193 (talk) 07:57, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

Presidents of Interpol during World War[edit]

In the list of presidents for Interpol, all listed presidents during the World War 2 were from Nazi Germany, and all were executed for war crimes for participation in the holocaust. However, for the entries for those people, there is no confirmation of this, and no mention of ever being part of Interpol is listed. Is there any confirmation of this? Peyton Westlake 03:05, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Someone didn't translate "Red Notices" very well from English to Spanish, and probably had no experience in spanish grammar whatsoever. In any case, I fixed it.

Fifth Largest?[edit]

Do we have anything to back this up?

Also by what measure is Interpol the fifth largest - Staff, Member Nations, Members, Finance, Most stationary used per month?

I find it hard to believe that FIBA (the basketball association) is biggerBazonka 23:27, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Telegraphic address[edit]

better known by its telegraphic address Interpol.

What is a telegraphic address? --Abdull 10:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

The Address for Telexes and Telegraphs —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.193.33.143 (talk) 23:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC)


Controversies?[edit]

Question: Has there ever been any wrongdoing on the part of Interpol? Any controversies? Mishandling of information? Is just that everything sounds too good to be true. (I certainly hope it is true, though.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.210.220.165 (talk) 15:42, 16 May 2008 (UTC)

One controversy has been that member states of a dubious nature i.e. Dictatorships etc. can put questionable records of individuals or organizations into the system without verification.BeckenhamBear (talk) 14:00, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Upon reviewing the controversies section, I encountered the following information: "An example involved journalist Hamza Kashgari, who in February 2012 fled his home country of Saudi Arabia to avoid prosecution for apostasy, and was subsequently arrested in Malaysia. The Royal Malaysian Police initially asserted that they had arrested Kashgari because they had received an Interpol Red Notice request to do so. However, Interpol stated that no such notice had been issued, and the Malaysian police retracted their claim." Since it would appear that no Interpol Red Notice was issued, and the Royal Malaysian Police have retracted their claim, I see no controversy here. To enhance the controversies section, another editor may consider adding a different example. MichaelKovich (talk) 01:55, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Man from Interpol[edit]

Shouldn't that be Man from U.N.C.L.E. ? Lars 07:25, 6 June 2008 (UTC)

What does Interpol Do?[edit]

Honestly, this article left more questions than it resolved. Outside of copyright warnings on VHS tapes from the 80's, I have no real solid insight on what the functions of Interpol are. Also, if the agency is supposed to be politically neutral how do they recruit? Can an American work as an Interpol agent in countries that the US has a sustained beef with, like say, China? Can an American work as an Interpol agent in America? & if so what would they be doing outside copyright warnings--but I think that job as been outsourced to the FBI. Is the Interpol warning still on imported films? I don't want a rewrite of the entire article, I just want a heck of lot more detail added to it. Is anyone out there an Interpol agent? If so, can you add to &/or rewrite this page? I'd like to know a bit more about Interpol. (Spookybubbles (talk) 01:54, 14 July 2008 (UTC))

They a international police organization or something, most of my info is from death note and whatever i read from this page. also, explain the "sustained beef" with china thing, china/US relatio0ns are not, "beefed"--Jakezing (talk) 04:38, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

There was no information about Interpol from Death Note. And the U.S. has condemned China for a number of their policies. 72.73.112.83 (talk) 20:04, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

This is ridiculous![edit]

This is outrageous vandalism. I can't believe this article has been allowed to stand for so long. Do people really believe that a 21st century indie rock band is somehow responsible for international police cooperation!?!?!- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 01:53, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

I am not sure I understand what you are saying, are you suggesting that there is no such thing as Interpol? Or that some band is more important than they are? FFMG (talk) 11:01, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
Precisely.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 02:53, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Precisely what? FFMG (talk) 05:19, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
Exactly.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 22:29, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
It's been fixed for some time. By the way, {{sofixit}}.--chaser - t 05:38, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
I still cannot believe that you thought that some band was somehow more important than Interpol. That's funny. FFMG (talk) 06:22, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
Sometimes I forget humor doesn't translate very well.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 00:10, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
Precisely. FFMG (talk) 00:55, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

Map[edit]

Is there a point to the map showing the location of Interpol headquarters when the "dot" winds up covering the whole of France? Seriously, it's not going to be hard for people to find out where Lyons is. —Preceding unsigned comment added by GoriceXII (talkcontribs) 19:50, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Political crimes[edit]

It says there remit doesnt include political crimes, yet terrorism is a political crime, as such its a contradiction, perhaps it meant political corruption? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.25.182.21 (talk) 00:11, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Terrorism is NOT a political crime. 72.65.106.155 (talk) 22:59, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

There is an inherent contradiction in the article. It says "In order to maintain as politically neutral a role as possible, Interpol's constitution forbids its involvement in crimes that do not overlap several member countries,[3] or in any political, military, religious, or racial crimes." Fine. But the next sentence reads, "Its work focuses primarily on public safety, terrorism, organized crime, crimes against humanity, genocide, war crimes...."
The problem is, war crimes are generally always military (and/or political), and "crimes against humanity" and "genocide", or charges therof, are generally always heavily freighted with politics. And with due regard to the previous poster, denying the religious component of contemporary terrorism is to be wilfully blind.
So which is it? Is Interpol really strictly neutral, or does it get involved in very political controversies such as Operation Cast Lead? Solicitr (talk) 00:51, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
For that matter, how is it possible to claim that genocide is not a racial crime? Isn't it by definition a racial crime? ("Genocide is the deliberate and systematic destruction, in whole or in part, of an ethnic, racial, religious, or national group." - from Wikipedia) 219.74.187.13 (talk) 15:14, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

"Human rights organizations and legal scholars have claimed that drug prohibition inevitably leads to police corruption."[edit]

Is this sentence really necessary? Its placement makes it seem like we're trying to excuse Selebi's crimes. I don't see any other reason to mention this fact there. I'd just go ahead and remove it, but since it's sourced information I figured I'd go ahead and check for other input here first. -Elmer Clark (talk) 20:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Member countries (Greenland)[edit]

In the map of the member countries, Greenland is not marked as a member country. But as Greenland is a part of the Kingdom of Denmark, thus Greenland is a member, no? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.17.163.26 (talk) 10:40, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Why is this here?[edit]

"Human rights organizations and legal scholars have claimed that drug prohibition inevitably leads to police corruption." It feels like it's here more to point a political point of view than anything else.70.15.191.119 (talk) 12:02, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Jackie Selebi[edit]

wouldn't the Jackie Selebi information be better served on the Jackie Selebi? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.15.191.119 (talk) 12:07, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

Only crimes overlapping several countries?[edit]

Currently, the article states: "Interpol's constitution forbids its involvement in crimes that do not overlap several member countries (ref http://www.interpol.int/public/icpo/default.asp )". Really? I find no mention of this in the reference, or in the constitution (ref http://www.interpol.int/Public/ICPO/LegalMaterials/constitution/constitutionGenReg/constitution.asp ). I looked this up following Interpol's arrest notice for Julian Assange for sex crimes (ref http://www.interpol.int/public/data/wanted/notices/data/2010/86/2010_52486.asp ). It does not seem like what he is accused of is a crime overlapping several countries... Though of course, he has OTHER activities which overlap a lot of countries. Ratfox (talk) 04:17, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

The auditor's statement was not present in several annual reports of Interpol. Should that info be added?[edit]

The following conversation started at User Talk:L.tak, based on an addition by BrekekekexKoaxKoax regarding (absence of) auditing statements in the year report of Interpol; which was subsequently removed by me. The discussion is moved here for reference and to have a wider discussion... L.tak (talk) 02:26, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi L.tak, with reference to your question, please see external auditors for a summary of their role, in particular 'the primary role of the external auditors is to express an opinion on whether an entity's financial statements are free of material misstatements', and Annual report. Thanks, BrekekekexKoaxKoax (talk) 03:43, 20 December 2010 (UTC)

He BKK, thanks for laying down those basics. Let me specify my concerns a bit. I was wondering how the presence or absence of financial statements was notable for inclusion on wikipedia and therefore looked for what was "special" about your comments... Is it an exception that international organizations do not have those statements? or did it spur controversy? Or are there any other reasons why it should be added to article? Rgds, L.tak (talk) 05:02, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
While Interpol's annual report does outline Interpol's financial performance and position, the omission of the audit opinion, especially after the somewhat distracting reference to the fact that the financial statements have been audited by an external auditor, simply begs the question. See cui bono. In other words, if all's well and good, why not say so? Especially as expression of such an opinion is 'the primary role of the external auditors' and is typically a requisite under GAAP. Thanks, BrekekekexKoaxKoax (talk) 01:07, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
BKK, you might be on to something and also I am a bit suspicious here. But with international organizations many things are not "ordinary" in terms of financials. They also do not fall under the obligations by law of countries. The statement that it was omitted is quite suggestive there as you point out yourself. To put in such a suggestive thing, I think we need WP:secondary sources stating its importance, or an evaluation showing all other major organizations do always show it (UN, UPU, OPCW etc). Otherwise with t we are falling to original research by putting information in which suggests something is wrong...[btw: would you mind if I move this discussion to the Interpol page, so more people can weigh in?] L.tak (talk) 02:10, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

INTERPOL 'Inefficiency'[edit]

I feel the article is a bit light on facts concerning this agency’s sorted past. Like the fact that an ex-Nazi was in charge of the agency as recently as 1972. The following is an old newspaper article which highlights some the questionable activities and ineptness of this “police” organization.

28 Friday. April 1, 1977 - THE DETROIT JEWISH NEWS GAO Investigation Exposes INTERPOL 'Inefficiency'

By S. A. BARRAM Jewish News Special Correspondent LONDON-The Comptroller General of the United States, following an investigation by the General Accounting Office (GAO). published a 56-page report on the operations, practices and administration of the International Criminal Police Organization. INTERPOL, which exposes a long chain of actual and potential abuses in the activities of this organization. The report vindicates what we have stated in previously in The Jewish News. The investigation had been requested in February, 1976 by Rep.. John E. Moss and Sen. Joseph Montoya, and followed the Montoya hearings on INTERPOL, where extensive evidence on INTERPOL's Nazi involvement and abuse of civil rights and individual freedoms was submitted. The investigators of the GAO visited 13 cities in 10 countries in Asia, South America, Europe and the U.S. The final report reveals that:

  • A substantial percentage of cases handled by INTERPOL had no criminal background at all; in some cases the information supplied included misdemeanors and no disposition data was available for many of the charges listed.
  • In 40 percent of the cases checked by GAO investigators, requestors for information had provided insufficient data. The requestors did not explain why the request was made, identify the type of criminal activity being investigated, precisely describe the charges, furnish evidence to support allegations that individuals had criminal backgrounds. etc. On the other hand, the report points out that information provided by INTERPOL will be used in an unknown environment, under different national customs, standards of conduct, peculiarities of law and due process of law and by governments ranging from liberal democracies to totalitarian regimes. (Some 85 percent of INTERPOL's membership is totalitarian).
  • No government or state body monitors the activities of INTERPOL and there is no control over the distribution of information disseminated through INTERPOL.
  • INTERPOL has access to American computer banks.

Through INTERPOL, data from these computers reaches third parties abroad. including Communist countries and countries with which the U.S. does not have diplomatic relations, such as Uganda. Equally, INTERPOL can place data on individuals and groups into the Treasury's Enforcement Communication Center (TECS) and the FBI's National Crime Information Center (NCIC) computers, and other law enforcement files.

  • CIA, FBI, DEA, U.S. Secret Service and other U.S. non-police authorities have access to INTERPOL's dossiers.
  • There arc no guidelines from INTERPOL's headquarters in Paris governing the exchange of unverified accusations, raw intelligence and other data, potentially damaging to innocent citizens.
  • INTERPOL can carry out police, diplomatic, intelligence, law enforcement and other functions without effective oversight.
  • None of the cases inspected by the GAO investigators showed that the organization is engaged in the combat of crime syndicates and big time criminals.

To summarize, the report conclusively shows that INTERPOL supports the dossier system, is law unto itself, a state above states, not subject to any scrutiny and supervision by outside bodies and is inefficient. The number of crimes of violence, acts of terrorism, drug abuse and drug trafficking increases continuously and the perpetrators get away. Nazi war criminals are not molested by INTERPOL. The tax-payers' money is used to finance the operations of INTERPOL. But the organization has failed in its avowed aims: The successful combat of international crime. Statistics released in 1975 (the latest), show that INTERPOL headquarters investigated 24,398 cases. These investigations resulted in only 630 arrests, which is about 2.6 percent efficiency. The statistics do not reveal the rate of conflictions, for INTERPOL does not keep such statistics. However, according to various authoritative works on crime, 50 percent of arrests usually result in acquittals. Applying this figure to INTERPOL's arrest record, only 1.3 percent actually resulted in convictions, which is negligible. None of these included crime syndicates and international big time criminals. according to the GAO report. After the publication of the Comptroller General's report, Vaughn Young, director of research for the National Commission for Law Enforcement and Social Justice in the U.S. travelled to Europe to meet with parliamentarians in England, Germany, Holland, France, Denmark, Belgium and Dr. Simon Wiesenthal in Vienna, to discuss with them the implications of the report. Through Dr. Wiesenthal's kind offices, I had the opportunity to meet Young and to exchange with him information about the Nazi background of the organization and current practices which have their origin from the Nazi era. Young, while in Europe, was subject to public character assassination initiated by INTERPOL. The German Federal Police issued a press release which stated that Vaughn Young is a swindler and that the GAO report is a swindle. Young impressed me as a serious meticulous researcher. He is a known and published author and had testified before Congress. Yet he has been subjected to a defamation campaign reminiscent of the Nazi propaganda machine or the KGB Desinformation Service. The purpose of this action was two-fold: To discredit him vis-a-vis parliamentarians and newspapermen in Europe who wished to meet him and to stifle at the outset a demand for an investigation into INTERPOL in Germany, similar to the one held in the U.S. This risk was too great to be taken: who knows how many former Nazis, still in the ranks of the German police, would have been exposed in the course of the investigation.' The attempt is doomed to failure. Young has taken legal steps against the German Federal Police for slander. In Germany some questions will be asked in Parliament. In Holland and Britain, questions in Parliament have been raised and other parliaments will follow. The Comptroller General's report was a fact-finding report. Based on the findings a number of Senators and Representatives, including Moss, Montoya, Beard, Eilberg and others, reportedly intend to get legislation passed to circumvent any further abuse of civil rights and individual freedoms through INTERPOL.

Slobeachboy (talk) 07:08, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

  1. ^ "Interpol members and dates of membership". Interpol.int. Retrieved 2011-04-17. 
  2. ^ http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/291580/Interpol/249130/History America joins Interpol