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- 1 Bowel vs Intestine(s)
- 2 Japanese intestines
- 3 Last reversion
- 4 Section through gut
- 5 Changes
- 6 Shot down
- 7 Wikify!
- 8 Length?
- 9 Can someone add this to the article?
- 10 One mile long?!
- 11 Intestines spiral in a clockwise or counter-clockwise direction?
- 12 Which animals?
- 13 spiritual bowels
- 14 spiritual bowels
- 15 Nonsensical sentence
- 16 Source 2 (Length)
Bowel vs Intestine(s)
This article is redirected from "Bowel" implying that "Intestine" and "Bowel" are synonyms. However, within this article is the following statement: "Irritable bowel syndrome is the most common functional disorder of the intestines, and specifically the bowel" which implies that the bowel is a subset of the Intestines Someone needs to clear up the terminology here. I certainly don't have the knowledge to do it.
Furthermore the article is called "Intestine" but appears to refere to different kinds of Intestine. Would the term "Intestines" be a better title? Simhedges 07:04, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- Bowel and Intestine are indeed synonymous. Bowel is a term used in speech for the intestine as a whole and arbitrary (undefined) parts thereof. The addition of "and especially the bowel" is superfluous and apparently confusing. I have removed it.
- Intestine is the name for the entire part of the alimentary canal between the stomach and the anus. There is a subdivision into smaller discernable elements, two of which are called large intestine and small intestine. A bit confusing perhaps, but that's language for you. Radonir 09:39, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
- If you think that that should be represented, there will no doubt soon be articles on American intestines, Russian intestines, African intestines, Aboriginal intestines and so on and so forth if the only barrier to entry is *one* vaguely prominent person making a statement that people of X origin's intestines are different. NPOV does not mean that nonsense is supported. Alex.tan 17:38, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
- I've never heard of anyone else describing their country's intestines as different, but you should easily be able to prove me wrong. NPOV does indeed mean that nonsense is
supportedexplained, that's why we have an article on Scientology. Kappa 17:47, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
- You're probably right about only the Japanese making such outlandish claims. You're also right about needing to explain why some people have read about "Japanese intestines" being this or that but that is a separate point from it being linked to from Intestine. If there is a small blurb in this article that explains or summarizes why someone should go read the article on Japanese intestines (and *if* the article on Japanese intestines is indeed worth reading), then yes, then there should be a link to it from within the text. Not so as a "see also". I'll point you back to your Scientology example. If you look at the article on religion, it does not list Scientology as a "see also" but puts it in context under Scientology#Esotericism and mysticism. Alex.tan 18:05, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
body system has 12 systems
I have mostly reverted this edit , as no rationale was provided in the edit summary, and this edit deleted a part of the article (including some apprently valid interwiki links). - Liberatore(T) 13:21, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Section through gut
I think it would be wise to have a general gut cross section included. Biologists will know what I mean. It's important because it includeds muscle layers, Brunner's glands, and other assorted wonders that the stomach/small intestine share. Please note that it refers to both as they contain the same layers of muscularis muscosa, sub-mucosa, muscularis externa etc. Also inclusion of Villi and micro villi is very important and there should also be a link to facilitated diffusion of glucose and general absorption information as this is where the majority goes of it on. I would do this myself but i suck at editing and would screw up a good article Crabulon 21:50 GMT
P.S I know Brunner's glands are only found in the stomach, it's a general diagram so it includes all sections of the gut. I mention this to pre-empt all those biology hot shots. Peace out. crabulon 21:52 GMT
Final P.S Someone needs to change the sentence containing information on micro villi. Villi should be mentioned first, with a diagram included, then show micro villi. Also, make sure the diagram shows micro villi as an extension of the cell membrane of the villus, NOT attached to a basement membrane. That would make them cillia. I know I'm right on this. peace out one last time. Crabulon
- Give it a try at doing these changes yourself. It's not an especially good article anyway (way too short). It's not like we have a army of experts around here. If you are really bad at editing (which I somehow doubt), someone will fix the problems sooner or later. - Liberatore(T) 21:35, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
Right, i did a HUGE overhaul. 70% is definately gold, so bear that in mind. What i need now is some young gun from the city to jazz it up and add more about the large intetsine and we're set for general info. I hope it's been helpful. Crabulon 23:37 GMT
Oh man, i was so happy at the fact I was editing that i forgot to check for exisiting articles. Turns out that most of what I've written is already mentioned in small intestine. However i think my description is much better, so i guess it's up to admin to do what it sees fit. However some of it may still be good. I'm such a newbie, I've wasted an hour. Crabulon 23:52 GMT
P.S I know that my description hasn't been done , so that should be ok. Oh doesn't matter, do what you want. i found it fun anyway, I LOVE biology. :-) Crabulon 00:05 GMT
- What you wrote is perfectly good, indeed (not that I am a biologist, but it looks fine). And this article really needed expansion. - Liberatore(T) 12:50, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
Thanks, I'll try to add a picture of a villus and do more tidying and leave it for someone else to jazz it up if they can. Crabulon
Check if another article already exists on this subject. As Crabulon pointed out above, Small intestine already exists as does Colon (anatomy). I've marked the article as "pass" though because although the other articles overlap this one in some points, there are others that aren't covered and vice-versa. There is the possiblity of merging this article into the other two, or merging the other two into this one at a later date if need be. Also, regarding wikification, I've done as much as I could although there are possibly some biological terms that are mentioned in the article that don't have a wikilink, and the lead section could probably include the main functions of the intestine and an overview of the article as a whole. 18:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I had hoped to find the total length of the intestines here 8-(--Light current 08:21, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
So had I, because I'm curious where the myth of human intestines being > 40000 miles (or whatever it is) had come from. Obviously, food is not digested at mach2 (with the possible exception of curry).Prgrmr@wrk 18:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I am also a little curious about these intestines wrapping around the earth. What a silly thing to even suppose! What is the deal? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 18:11, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
Can someone add this to the article?
I was hoping to find here in this article if the intestines were made out of muscular tissue. I didn't find it here so can someone who knows add it or answer this question for me through the talk page? Thank you.--Josue Ramirez 01:51, 4 April 2007 (UTC) Jramirez23
One mile long?!
Somebody had written this:
The small intestine is accually the longer of the two and measure at approximatley a mile.
Is the writer mad, or is it perhaps meant a square mile. With all the foldings etc., can that be true?
- I don't have the reference in front of me but I've read that the surface area of the intestines is the size of a doubles tennis court due to several specializations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 22.214.171.124 (talk) 06:30, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
I've heard the small intestine is about 7 meters long, but I can not give any reference to that. Mikael Häggström 04:49, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- That seems more reasonable to me. Mikael Häggström 19:09, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
Intestines spiral in a clockwise or counter-clockwise direction?
I once thought I heard - depending on if a person was gestated in the northern or southern hemisphere - their intestines would form as either clockwise or counter-clockwise. Has anyone heard of this and if it's true? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 126.96.36.199 (talk) 12:15, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
- That is an awesome story but I can say that if that is true it is not printed in the 1200 pg text I read for Gross Anatomy or the much shorter embryology text. The stomach/esophagus turns 90 degrees to the right, and the intestines rotate 270 degrees counterclockwise (when viewed from anatomical position) which accounts for the large looping track the colon takes around the abdomen. The spiraling of the toilet is however reversed north or south of the equator. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.8.131.52 (talk) 06:23, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
what is spiritual bowels
The second paragraph of Structure and function begins:
The lumen where digested food passes through and from where Both intestines share a general structure with the whole gut, and are composed of several layers.
- It looks like someone lost part of the sentence in December. It's fixed now. WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:02, 3 April 2010 (UTC)