Talk:Irish nationalism/Archive 2

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Historically, Ireland has been ruled by Great Britain

What clown wrote this? See History of Ireland and edit this misleading statement. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.40.189.234 (talk) 04:54, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Clerical abuse scandal in Ireland

There should maybe be addtional information on the effects of the clerical abuse scandal in Ireland on the overall movenment of Irish nationalism. It is possible that the scandal allowed for Irish nationalism to become more secular and less influenced by the Catholic Church, essentially because of the massive outrage it provoked among the Irish people. Evaluating the long-term impact of the abuse scandal isn't so easy right now, but it will probably become more evident as the scandal is remembered as more of a thing of the past than one of present matters. ADM (talk) 08:18, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

Irish republicanism

There's a mention on the Irish republicanism of the link between the two stances and how they might be seen as identical or different. I think it should be written into this article's lead. It's very important especially in NI. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mac Gille Domhnaich (talkcontribs) 14:25, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

See also

The see also section is entirely too long. If these people are of importance, they should be discussed in the text. I took out some repetition, but there are still a lot of names there. Same goes with the list of nationalist organizations, which is weighted toward contemporary or late 20th century groups (most of them small groups on the Left). If they are important, why not discuss them and their role in the main text? ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 17:51, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Protestants

The reference to Parnell as being "paradoxically" Protestant suggests that it was remarkable. In fact there were always Protestants in the nationalist movement, though they were much scarcer after the suppression of the United Irishmen in 1798 than beforehand. The word would be better omitted, at least until someone finds time to write an article about Protestants in the Irish nationalist movements! Diomedea Exulans (talk) 10:04, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

The "paradoxically" comment might be reworded better, but I think its intent is in relation to Parnell's involvement in the land campaign, rather than in the broader campaign for Home Rule. As for Protestant Nationalists, there's already an article: Protestant Irish nationalists. I've now added a link to the latter from this article's "See also" section. Andrew Gwilliam (talk) 11:35, 2 August 2011 (UTC).

Suggest rapid improvement

I am saddened to see that such an important article is written largely as an unreferenced stream of consciousness. Plus there is so much POV that you could cut it with a knife. I will try and get back here soon but in the meantime I would love to see somebody else have a go at it. It deserves to be better. SonofSetanta (talk) 17:10, 26 July 2013 (UTC)